Comments Thread For: Fury: Joshua is Not Dangerous, I'm No Believer, Sparked Out By Ruiz

[davefromvancouv]

Huge sigh. Ok, I'm going to explain it to you once, and that's it ok? Fury gave up his lineal title, when he got busted for steroids and retired. "That's how it works" he has since repeatedly claimed that he is the lineal champion, until people starting saying that he was. But the truth is, the line stopped when he quit and wouldn't rematch Klitschko. Right now, Wilder is saying that he doesn't recognize Fury as a champion, but that doesn't mean he isn't right? Same thing here. Just because Fury keeps saying he's the lineal champion, it doesn't mean he is. If he actually grows a pair and fights AJ for all the belts, then the winner will become the lineal champion again. THAT'S how it works.

Fury never gave up his lineal title because you can only lose it by being beaten in the ring or by officially retiring. I know it hurts that Joshua has no claim to the lineage but it's a very simple thing. It's a mythical title. It can't be stripped. Clearly, Fury is still active and is yet to be beaten.

[Tyistall]

Fury never gave up his lineal title because you can only lose it by being beaten in the ring or by officially retiring. I know it hurts that Joshua has no claim to the lineage but it's a very simple thing. It's a mythical title. It can't be stripped. Clearly, Fury is still active and is yet to be beaten.

Ok. Go ahead and make up your own rules to fit your agenda. I can't debate with someone who is on the short bus. Have fun. I will talk to you when Fury gets KOed within the year. That's if he doesn't go back to fighting the Wallins, Sefaris and Schwartzs hahaha. Enjoy dumbassss

[Boxviewer]

Fury never gave up his lineal title because you can only lose it by being beaten in the ring or by officially retiring. I know it hurts that Joshua has no claim to the lineage but it's a very simple thing. It's a mythical title. It can't be stripped. Clearly, Fury is still active and is yet to be beaten.

😂😂😂....some folks can say anything in order to win a debate!

So this lineal nonsense is ultimately not a real thing but a "mythical title" , an imaginary title.

You have just acknowledged that
Fury fans are demigod worshippers. They believe every nonsense their demigod dishes out.

[DaNeutral.]

Fury is that lineal champion who has retired, been busted for peds and never defended a world title in his life.

This is why I'm not so big on lineal talk. I'd just stuck to who holds world titles. World titles and belts seems to be very important to all the other Boxers through the divisions and I rarely hear of them talking about Lineal.

[davefromvancouv]

😂😂😂....some folks can say anything in order to win a debate!

So this lineal nonsense is ultimately not a real thing but a "mythical title" , an imaginary title.

You have just acknowledged that
Fury fans are demigod worshippers. They believe every nonsense their demigod dishes out.

I'm just highlighting the information laid out in the Cliff Rold article that I provided. It's a good read. Very informative for the casual fan...

[davefromvancouv]

Ok. Go ahead and make up your own rules to fit your agenda. I can't debate with someone who is on the short bus. Have fun. I will talk to you when Fury gets KOed within the year. That's if he doesn't go back to fighting the Wallins, Sefaris and Schwartzs hahaha. Enjoy dumbassss

Don't blame me. That's been the rules of boxing since 1885.

And I'm also predicting that Fury will get KOed at the end of the year when he fights Wilder. Then Wilder will be the NEW lineal champion.

[Blond Beast]

At HW everybody has a suspect chin. You should respect Ruiz more.

Evander had granite chin, but maybe that’s not fair cause he started as a LH.

My brother told me Ruiz could fight. He took a bunch of huge shots from AJ right after he got up. He showed a great chin there. I remember when he first went down I was like “Oh well there u go”, but he fought back hard enough to secure his place in history. No more weighing in wearing a t-shirt and accessories though, for anybody for that matter. Disrespectful to the sport. People bet on this stuff. Hiding ur physique has all sorts of ramifications.

[Roberto Vasquez]

Has nothing to do with how great it is. It's just how it works. You beat the man, you're the man. Simple concept.

So what would happen if someone won the Lineal belt when Tyson Fury was retired. Would Fury get it back if he made a come-back?

[davefromvancouv]

So what would happen if someone won the Lineal belt when Tyson Fury was retired. Would Fury get it back if he made a come-back?

If Joshua had agreed to fight Wilder for $50 million in 2018, most boxing pundits would have considered the undisputed winner to be the lineal champion. But Tyson Fury would still have had a valid claim to the lineage when he came back because he was the man who beat the man.

Just like when Jim Jefferies came back in 1910 to reclaim the heavyweight title from Jack Johnson. Or when Muhammad Ali came back in 1970 to reclaim the title from Joe Frazier. In both cases, boxing had moved on to establish a new champion but the actual lineal champion came back.

When Fury came back and there were 2 established champions, one who had the WBC belt and another who had picked up the belts Fury had already won. So no one had established themselves as THE champion after he left.

[Tyistall]

If Joshua had agreed to fight Wilder for $50 million in 2018, most boxing pundits would have considered the undisputed winner to be the lineal champion. But Tyson Fury would still have had a valid claim to the lineage when he came back because he was the man who beat the man.

Just like when Jim Jefferies came back in 1910 to reclaim the heavyweight title from Jack Johnson. Or when Muhammad Ali came back in 1970 to reclaim the title from Joe Frazier. In both cases, boxing had moved on to establish a new champion but the actual lineal champion came back.

When Fury came back and there were 2 established champions, one who had the WBC belt and another who had picked up the belts Fury had already won. So no one had established themselves as THE champion after he left.

Again, the fact that you think Wilder’s 50 dollar email with no meeting and a 24 hour deadline is valid, let’s me know how ridiculously ****** you are. I bet you have been scammed by Nigerian emails before, haven’t you? Hhahahaha. Wilder is not a promoter and he damn sure doesn’t have 50 million to give to AJ.