Comments Thread For: Fury: Joshua is Not Dangerous, I'm No Believer, Sparked Out By Ruiz

[davefromvancouv]

Again, the fact that you think Wilder’s 50 dollar email with no meeting and a 24 hour deadline is valid, let’s me know how ridiculously ****** you are. I bet you have been scammed by Nigerian emails before, haven’t you? Hhahahaha. Wilder is not a promoter and he damn sure doesn’t have 50 million to give to AJ.

He didn't, but Al Haymon, Showtime and Viacom sure did. Pocket change. Not to mention that it wasn't just $50 million: it was that AGAINST 50%. The largest offer ever made to a heavyweight champion. PLUS a $30 million rematch clause!

[Tyistall]

He didn't, but Al Haymon, Showtime and Viacom sure did. Pocket change. Not to mention that it wasn't just $50 million: it was that AGAINST 50%. The largest offer ever made to a heavyweight champion. PLUS a $30 million rematch clause!

Riiiiight, but Wilder was making 1 to 2 million per fight at the time hahhaah. Man, just stop. You are sounding more reeetarded by the second. Showtime dropped Wilder a year ago. The PBC is on the verge of bankruptcy and PBC fighters have been jumping ship for the last couple of years. If it was pocket change, then they would have been paying their fighters that much already.

[davefromvancouv]

Riiiiight, but Wilder was making 1 to 2 million per fight at the time hahhaah. Man, just stop. You are sounding more reeetarded by the second. Showtime dropped Wilder a year ago. The PBC is on the verge of bankruptcy and PBC fighters have been jumping ship for the last couple of years. If it was pocket change, then they would have been paying their fighters that much already.

Wrong. Wilder not only makes the listed purse, but he gets PBC fight bonuses and self-promotes his fights. You don't know HOW much he makes and you're forgetting, again, that Showtime is owned by Viacom. The PBC has deals with both Fox and Showtime so fighters are able to switch seamlessly between the two, based on who offers the best deal.

$50 million is small change for a multi-billion dollar company. Especially for a chance to host an undisputed fight between two undefeated heavyweight champions, the first time in history. Joshua just wasn't ready for Wilder at the time and even stated that it was an honor to be offered so much money.

[Laligalaliga]

Yet, he took his asswhooping like a man. AJ turned his back on the referee and spit out his gum shield on the canvas while surrendering like a chump he is. Who also told his fanboys to go train and become boxers themselves if they wanted him to fight Deontay Wilder.

I didnt see blood coming of AJ's ears and nose. In the mindst of concussion, he stood his ground.
Your god has blood coming of his anus.

[Roberto Vasquez]

If Joshua had agreed to fight Wilder for $50 million in 2018, most boxing pundits would have considered the undisputed winner to be the lineal champion. But Tyson Fury would still have had a valid claim to the lineage when he came back because he was the man who beat the man.

Just like when Jim Jefferies came back in 1910 to reclaim the heavyweight title from Jack Johnson. Or when Muhammad Ali came back in 1970 to reclaim the title from Joe Frazier. In both cases, boxing had moved on to establish a new champion but the actual lineal champion came back.

When Fury came back and there were 2 established champions, one who had the WBC belt and another who had picked up the belts Fury had already won. So no one had established themselves as THE champion after he left.

So what you are suggesting is that the World Lineal Association should sometimes split into 2 separate bodies to accommodate the different Lineal champions. How about the LBC and the LBA?

If Wilder beats Fury and wins the Lineal belt and then he throws it in the garbage - like he promised. Does Fury then get the belt back?

[JakeTheBoxer]

I have and idea. How about Joshua -Wallin and Fury -Ruiz?

[davefromvancouv]

So what you are suggesting is that the World Lineal Association should sometimes split into 2 separate bodies to accommodate the different Lineal champions. How about the LBC and the LBA?

If Wilder beats Fury and wins the Lineal belt and then he throws it in the garbage - like he promised. Does Fury then get the belt back?

All you need is the ring. It's very simple. Did Fury beat Klitschko? Yes. Has anyone beaten Fury since? No. So Fury is the lineal champion.

You see? Not too hard to understand, right?

[Tyistall]

Wrong. Wilder not only makes the listed purse, but he gets PBC fight bonuses and self-promotes his fights. You don't know HOW much he makes and you're forgetting, again, that Showtime is owned by Viacom. The PBC has deals with both Fox and Showtime so fighters are able to switch seamlessly between the two, based on who offers the best deal.

$50 million is small change for a multi-billion dollar company. Especially for a chance to host an undisputed fight between two undefeated heavyweight champions, the first time in history. Joshua just wasn't ready for Wilder at the time and even stated that it was an honor to be offered so much money.

Damn man, it must hurt to be this ******. The PBC doesn't have all these backroom deals and unlimited supplies of money hahahaha. That's just a figment of Wilder fans' imagination to help with their pathetic arguments. I can make up **** too, but i choose to go with facts. Both Fury and Wilder fought each other because neither of them wanted to get beaten by AJ in front of millions of people. Period. wilder is an overrated bum beating fraud and Fury is a steroid cheat who has a pathetic resume.

[davefromvancouv]

Damn man, it must hurt to be this ******. The PBC doesn't have all these backroom deals and unlimited supplies of money hahahaha. That's just a figment of Wilder fans' imagination to help with their pathetic arguments. I can make up **** too, but i choose to go with facts. Both Fury and Wilder fought each other because neither of them wanted to get beaten by AJ in front of millions of people. Period. wilder is an overrated bum beating fraud and Fury is a steroid cheat who has a pathetic resume.

Keith Idec on PBC fighters purses:



Wilder promotes his own fights, so that's money you don't see. Showtime matched the $20 million DAZN offer for the Breazeale fight, the Ortiz rematch generated $21 million in PPV revenue, and Fury rematch had a $17 million live gate and $96 million in PPV revenue. The key thing is that everybody got their fair share of the profits so the fights got done.

Fury is #1 in the division because he beat #1 Klitschko (when Klitschko was actually a champion), and he drew with #2 Wilder in the first fight and just beat him in the rematch. The winner of the rubber match will be #1 in the division and the fight between these two giants will be highly anticipated. Both fighters are hot commodities in the US and around the world. Boxing fans appreciate the fact that they are fighting each other in their prime.

Joshua, on the other hand, has lost his spark, especially after what he did in the Ruiz rematch. Now that resume is starting to look suspect: how good WERE the guys he actually fought, and were the aging fighters a shell of themselves?

[Tyistall]

Keith Idec on PBC fighters purses:



Wilder promotes his own fights, so that's money you don't see. Showtime matched the $20 million DAZN offer for the Breazeale fight, the Ortiz rematch generated $21 million in PPV revenue, and Fury rematch had a $17 million live gate and $96 million in PPV revenue. The key thing is that everybody got their fair share of the profits so the fights got done.

Fury is #1 in the division because he beat #1 Klitschko (when Klitschko was actually a champion), and he drew with #2 Wilder in the first fight and just beat him in the rematch. The winner of the rubber match will be #1 in the division and the fight between these two giants will be highly anticipated. Both fighters are hot commodities in the US and around the world. Boxing fans appreciate the fact that they are fighting each other in their prime.

Joshua, on the other hand, has lost his spark, especially after what he did in the Ruiz rematch. Now that resume is starting to look suspect: how good WERE the guys he actually fought, and were the aging fighters a shell of themselves?

OK, this is the last time I respond to you. Because you are indeed a special needs person at best. The Wilder vs Breazeale fight had an attendance of slightly over 6k fans. You don't pay a fighter 20 million, for a non PPV fight with 6k fans in the seats hahahahah idiot. Your numbers for the Ortiz and Fury rematches, as usual, are inflated too. You mention Fury beating Wilder and klitschko, but no mention of him fighting absolute bums in between like Wallin, Seferi and Swchartz. And AJ lost his spark??? His fight with Pulev will be in front of more fans than Wilder and Fury have fought in front of FOR THE LAST 5 FIGHTS APIECE, COMBINED HAHAHAH. You can spin it all you want, but fury has one belt, and then a belt from a magazine and then he is claiming an imaginary belt to go with that. And Wilder has no belt and a bunch of excuses. Neither of these chumps are "the man" at heavyweight until one of them mans up and actually fights AJ. I know you'd like to spin it as much as you can, but, AJ is the man to beat until further notice. He is the biggest earner and he has the most belts and the best resume. Wilder will lose the rematch, if they even have one, and he will fade into obscurity. Fury will get beaten within the next year by either Whyte or AJ and he will become the joke that he already is. Deal with that and stop making up fake numbers for Wilder, who is at home now trying to figure out his next excuse for why he got his assss kicked by a feather fisted Gypsy.