Floyd's resume.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

10% spot on. After a couple decades people forget the fights that didn't happen, or the ones that happened out of prime. People forget that Sugar Ray Leonard missed several important fighters in their primes etc etc.

You only get a few years in your prime, fighting everyone at their prime is impossible. You can pick apart Floyd's resume if you want, you can do the same to Pacquaio's, but both guys fought dozens of champions and fought the majority of the important fighters near their weight of their eras.

Floyd will always be a target, he's so disliked by some that people hate on him vicariously by hating on Canelo because Floyd beat a young Canelo. Well, that win is looking like an all time great win right now. An old and over the hill Mayweather schooled a young buck who is now himself threatening all time status.

Agreed. Canelo is actually Mayweather’s best win IMO. I don’t buy into the whole “he was green and weight drained” narrative. He was 40-0 and a unified champion that isn’t a green fighter and he was still fighting at 154 3 years later so he couldn’t have been all that weight drained either. It wasn’t a peak Canelo by any means but Floyd still beat an elite young fighter who’s gone on to be the P4P #1 fighter in the sport. As you said ATG win.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I don't see an issue discussing a fighter's resume either. There is reasonable and there is unreasonable. It simply isn't reasonable that people on this site "objectively" discuss a resume that no one argues isn't worthy of 1st ballot HOF status and that is as repetitive as this topic is.

No Floyd fan is defensive, just tired of people pretending there is something reasonable to discuss.

Why isn’t it reasonable? You could objectively say Floyd should have fought more fighters in their primes. You could make the exact same claim in regard to Leonard not fighting Hagler until 87. Floyd isn’t some untouchable being who’s exempt from criticism.

Floyd fans are so defensive man. They’re the most defensive bunch on here aside from maybe the AJ fans.

[hugh grant]

Agreed. Canelo is actually Mayweather’s best win IMO. I don’t buy into the whole “he was green and weight drained” narrative. He was 40-0 and a unified champion that isn’t a green fighter and he was still fighting at 154 3 years later so he couldn’t have been all that weight drained either. It wasn’t a peak Canelo by any means but Floyd still beat an elite young fighter who’s gone on to be the P4P #1 fighter in the sport. As you said ATG win.

It wasn't a great win, might as well Pac is a great win for torrecampo. You get credit only for the version you beat. You don't get credit for beating what someone once was or wil oneday become.
When Floyd beat nelo, nobody knew if nel o would disappear like most of Floyd s opponents did. Nobody would have predicted nel o would improve as much as he did

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

It wasn't a great win, might as well Pac is a great win for torrecampo.

Stop trolling...

Pac was like 17 years old and never fought anywhere close to world level when he lost to Torrecampo.

Canelo was 23, 41-0, and a World Champion who was making his 7th defence.

Absolutely ridiculous comparison.

[Fanofreason]

The only FLoyd fight that didn’t happen I wanted to see was. Mayweather vs Sergio Martinez. I think Sergio was a full blown middleweight by the time it would have made sense though.

floyd beat everyone and made it look like a sparring match guys.

He was levels above PAC and Canelo.

[hugh grant]

Stop trolling...

Pac was like 17 years old and never fought anywhere close to world level when he lost to Torrecampo.

Canelo was 23, 41-0, and a World Champion who was making his 7th defence.

Absolutely ridiculous comparison.

Floyd was favourite for a reason. Nel o was green and drained and although some had nel o bordering too ten pfp most didn't have him there.
if trout had of beat nel o it wouldn't have been proclaimed a great win. Especially if trout tried getting advantage like Floyd did. If Ssm had of beat nelo it wouldn't be great. People would just say nel o wasn't as good as people thought he.might be and Ssm too experienced.

[Johnny2x2x]

Agreed. Canelo is actually Mayweather’s best win IMO. I don’t buy into the whole “he was green and weight drained” narrative. He was 40-0 and a unified champion that isn’t a green fighter and he was still fighting at 154 3 years later so he couldn’t have been all that weight drained either. It wasn’t a peak Canelo by any means but Floyd still beat an elite young fighter who’s gone on to be the P4P #1 fighter in the sport. As you said ATG win.

152 lbs when Canelo had weighed in at 153 his previous 2 fights, is nothing. And to Canelo and his teams credit, they said it was no factor. Would the 168 lb Canelo we see today have beaten that version of Mayweather? Yes. Prime vs prime at some mystery weight that would be fair? Mayweather was better.

But Canelo is really looking to build a legacy, he's just entering his prime and is active and will almost impossible to beat over the next 4 years. I believe if he cleans out all the big name fighters from 160 to 175 in the next 4 years he's an all time top 10 fighter.

[Johnny2x2x]

It wasn't a great win, might as well Pac is a great win for torrecampo. You get credit only for the version you beat. You don't get credit for beating what someone once was or wil oneday become.
When Floyd beat nelo, nobody knew if nel o would disappear like most of Floyd s opponents did. Nobody would have predicted nel o would improve as much as he did

LOL, Canelo was the undefeated unified champion and had just beaten Austin trout and Shane Mosely when he fought Mayweather. He was the top Super Welterweight in the world and the Mayweather haters were crowing about him for months saying Mayweather would never fight a young bull like him. The revisionist history is hilarious, Canelo was 100% the toughest possible opponent for Mayweather at the time below 160 lbs.

That was an all time win, period.

[hugh grant]

LOL, Canelo was the undefeated unified champion and had just beaten Austin trout and Shane Mosely when he fought Mayweather. He was the top Super Welterweight in the world and the Mayweather haters were crowing about him for months saying Mayweather would never fight a young bull like him. The revisionist history is hilarious, Canelo was 100% the toughest possible opponent for Mayweather at the time below 160 lbs.

That was an all time win, period.

Oh for gosh sake, Nell was drained. So Pac s win over dlh and cotto must be amazing. Pac will always be criticised for the cw, even though he beat Joshua clotte y easier than cotto at full 147.
Pac stopped cott o whereas Floyd couldn't so surely it's greatest win of all time?

[New England]

he's one of the best boxers to ever put on a set of gloves. he was the best fighter in the world at 130 all the way up to 154 lbs. beat hall of famers and some of his best contenders could hardly put a glove on him. he was moved for financial gain but so is everybody else. in floyd's case he fought in the pay per view era with 1-2 big fights a year and building toward infrequent "megafights" with pacquiao, mcgregor, and oscar de la hoya. he did not fight pacquiao at his best but that's life.