Floyd's resume.

[koolkc107]

This is what Floyd did at 147.

Whether you think this is exceptional or whether you think this is meh, one thing it isn't...is easy.

His legacy is fine here, with only one fight against a guy coming off a loss:


Sharmba Mitchell- coming of 5 rd TD of Chris Smith, who was 19-1-1

Zab Judah- coming off loss to Carlos Baldomir

Carlos Baldomir- coming of 9th round stoppage of Arturo Gatti

DLH- coming off 6th round stoppage of Ricardo Mayorga

Ricky Hatton- coming off a 4th round stoppage of Jose Luis Castillo

JMM- coming off a 9th round stoppage of Juan Diaz

Shane Mosley- coming off a 9th round stoppage of Antonio Margarito

Victor Ortiz- coming off UD vs Andre Berto

Miguel Cotto- coming of 9th round stoppage of Antonio Margarito

Robert Guerrero- coming off a UD vs Andre Berto

Saul Alvarez- coming off a UD vs Austin Trout

Marcos Maidana- coming of a UD vs Adrien Broner

Manny Pacquiao- coming off a UD vs Chris Algieri

Andre Berto- coming off a 6th round stoppage of Josecito Lopez

Conor McGregor- debut

[BodyBagz]

Undisputed P4P/PPV king for most of his career.
May was boxing and if he unretires, will run boxing again.

[mrpain81]

2 points:

1. He was the underdog against Corrales.

2. This is really weird to hold it against someone that they are always favored. DO you do this in other sports?

For example-is Lewis Hamilton not great because he is expected to win every F1 race? Were the 72-10 Bulls not the best because they were favored to beat everyone? What about the Brazilian soccer teams with Pele? The 27 Yankees? The great Montreal Canadians hockey Teams? The 85 Bears? UConn's women's Hoops? Kareem's UCLA teams? Cael Sanderson in NCAA wrestling? Serena? Simeone Biles?

Floyd is literally the only athlete/team you and others hold dominance and not losing against. In every other sport winning and being the clear favorite over other professionals is a sign of greatness and a something that earns respect.

1.Corrales was even money fight. 6/5 either way.

2. You can't compare Boxing to other sports, they follow a tournament where you are forced to play the best. The bulls don't retire for 2 years because they don't like the match-ups for the next season.

SRR would fight middleweights weighing himself 144lbs, he move up to fight the Light Heavyweight champ while weighing 157. Roy Jones moved up to heavyweight. Pacquiao moved up 7 weight classes. Ali beat Liston while being 8-1 dog, 4-1 dog vs. Foreman. Ray Leonard fought all the killers and beat them all. He opened 4-1 dog versus Hagler.

That's my opinion on greatness, talent + accomplishments + risk. Floyd has tons of the first 2, the third not so much.

It's all subjective.

[BodyBagz]

1.Corrales was even money fight. 6/5 either way.

2. You can't compare Boxing to other sports, they follow a tournament where you are forced to play the best. The bulls don't retire for 2 years because they don't like the match-ups for the next season.

SRR would fight middleweights weighing himself 144lbs, he move up to fight the Light Heavyweight champ while weighing 157. Roy Jones moved up to heavyweight. Pacquiao moved up 7 weight classes. Ali beat Liston while being 8-1 dog, 4-1 dog vs. Foreman. Ray Leonard fought all the killers and beat them all. He opened 4-1 dog versus Hagler.

That's my opinion on greatness, talent + accomplishments + risk. Floyd has tons of the first 2, the third not so much.

It's all subjective.

I don't know what risks May should have taken....The Margarito fight ? Paul Willie ?
I also don't understand how a ********** like Margarito got that boogeyman rep. BFD he beat Cintron 2x. That's basically his greatest hits list. The Cotto win is suspect as hell. He went life and death with a slow 1 handed Clottey and got retired by an elf.

Paul W would have been an interesting match up visually.. Not so much actually. Caveman Margarito was able to touch him at will. I'm pretty sure an expert boxer like May would have done just as well.

You are correct. Almost all of this is subjective.

[mrpain81]

I don't know what risks May should have taken....The Margarito fight ? Paul Willie ?
I also don't understand how a ********** like Margarito got that boogeyman rep. BFD he beat Cintron 2x. That's basically his greatest hits list. The Cotto win is suspect as hell. He went life and death with a slow 1 handed Clottey and got retired by an elf.

Paul W would have been an interesting match up visually.. Not so much actually. Caveman Margarito was able to touch him at will. I'm pretty sure an expert boxer like May would have done just as well.

You are correct. Almost all of this is subjective.

Those were the fights the fans wanted back in 2007/2008 but Floyd retired which is his right.

What really hurts is the Pacquiao fight not being made for 6 years, both guys were red hot and everyone wanted to see it. It would be like Crawford and Spence don't fight for another 4 years and Spence has already been ko'd, that's when Crawford finally accepts the fight. It would still be a big significant fight but it's mostly a ruse from when the fight really had the potential to showcase both fighters at their peak.

I know both fighters were at fault and it was mostly their management who wanted to keep milking their fighter while dangling the fight to the fans. But the perception was always that Floyd was ducking the fight, from A-side meth to steroids to needles if you ask the average fan Floyd didn't want that fight. Pacquiao would hide behind Arum while in public he always said he wanted the fight, while Floyd being his own boss would always try to justify why it couldn't be made in public.

That would have been Mayweathers all time great win, no excuses, no bullshit. As guy who calls himself a boss and his own promoter he should have done everything possible to make that fight. Also talking about odds.
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He did eventually fight and beat Pacquiao but it's timing and significance isn't the same.

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It basically comes down to:

Having fought no prime HOF is his downfall

[BodyBagz]

Those were the fights the fans wanted back in 2007/2008 but Floyd retired which is his right.

What really hurts is the Pacquiao fight not being made for 6 years, both guys were red hot and everyone wanted to see it. It would be like Crawford and Spence don't fight for another 4 years and Spence has already been ko'd, that's when Crawford finally accepts the fight. It would still be a big significant fight but it's mostly a ruse from when the fight really had the potential to showcase both fighters at their peak.

I know both fighters were at fault and it was mostly their management who wanted to keep milking their fighter while dangling the fight to the fans. But the perception was always that Floyd was ducking the fight, from A-side meth to steroids to needles if you ask the average fan Floyd didn't want that fight. Pacquiao would hide behind Arum while in public he always said he wanted the fight, while Floyd being his own boss would always try to justify why it couldn't be made in public.

That would have been Mayweathers all time great win, no excuses, no bullshit. As guy who calls himself a boss and his own promoter he should have done everything possible to make that fight. Also talking about odds.
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He did eventually fight and beat Pacquiao but it's timing and significance isn't the same.

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It basically comes down to:

I believe May haters bring up Margarito more than true fans of the sport.
May beat DLH, Cotto, Nelo, Mosley and Pac. Prime Margarito would not survive that line up.
Margarito was supposed to be a remote threat to a PRIME May ?!?!? Might as well say May ducked Khan.
Paul, meh. His true talent relied on height and reach. He usually smothered his own punches by being recklessly aggressive. Much like Porter.

Neither fighter, May/Pac were prime when they fought. May is older even. Had the fight took place when it should have, I feel May would get that KO.
What fighter worth a damn calls off a fight due to taking random blood test ? That was the main sticking point. Pac created at least 7 excuses as to why he couldn't take random blood tests.

Sometimes you can draw conclusions by the way a person acts in the face scrutiny

''Can't prove he's guilty but he sure as hell acts like he is.''

May wasn't going to have his career dictated by some Arum fighter.
It was May who made the fight happen to begin with. If not for May, it wouldn't have happened.

[blowblow]

floyd ducked pac.. pac called him out until he got tired and let it go away.. by the time floyd saw pac got k.oed then he agreed to fight right away.. too many excuses floyd brought up in 2009 til 2015. lame resume.

[blowblow]

Undisputed P4P/PPV king for most of his career.
May was boxing and if he unretires, will run boxing again.

against youtubers lol

[Roadblock]

floyd ducked pac.. pac called him out until he got tired and let it go away.. by the time floyd saw pac got k.oed then he agreed to fight right away.. too many excuses floyd brought up in 2009 til 2015. lame resume.

Called him out lol Manny did nothing to make the fight he did all he could to derail it including suing him how the fck you going to make a fight while suing the other party what a fcn joke, Floyd phoned him personally offering Manny his biggest purse to date and Manny said no , in the end it was Floyd who approached Manny again and made the fight, all the way from Manny saying no test Manny derailed the fight, how was Floyd to know Manny would say no test unless he could have cut of dates and notice when testers are coming around , fck how are you idiots so gullible.

This is the part where Manny fanboys are so delusional, to think Manny wanted it when he was the one saying no deal while Floyd agreed to every demand Manny made , 50/50 purse , 10 mill weight clause, what he didnt agree to was Manny wanting a money penalty on a positive test , only a cheat would want such a thing.

Manny or more to the point Bob Arum kept Manny away from Floyd because May would have killed his goose that laid the golden egg, Arum had no intentions of letting Floyd beat him until he had milked Manny out .

[Spray_resistant]

Good resume overall, not great and could have been better and yes he did carefully select who he fought and when.