5 fighters who would have beat Floyd Mayweather.

[therealpugilist]

Agreed Armstrong is a stylistic nightmare for Floyd...he brings the grit and approach that limited Maidana and JLC had and those guys both fought to 5-7 losses and some people had 6-6. Both would lose the rematch with more clinching from Floyd but Armstrong would do enough to win more rounds imo

people think every fighter that is aggressive have no skill.....duran and armstrong are among the most skilled ever

[-Kev-]

they speak on fighters theyve only seen a few highlights of


Armstrong was the most skilled pressure fighter of all time....inside conrol, controlling opponents head....rolling and shifting.....leaping left hooks, upstroke overhand rights, and could throw 100+ punches a round without breaking a sweat walking in ring 133lbs manhandling men 145, elbows,


jesus chavez n hatton were rough and tireless, imagine if they had his skills with the tenacity.....even more trouble for floyd...add that he had fast hands feet and a great chin



more trouble for floyd

I have seen two full fights of Henry Armstrong.

I don’t speak on fighters I have never seen.

You are the one with a top 100 ATG list, not me. My argument is that one can not speak on a fighter they have not seen fight.

[therealpugilist]

I have seen two full fights of Henry Armstrong.

I don’t speak on fighters I have never seen.

You are the one with a top 100 ATG list, not me. My argument is that one can not speak on a fighter they have not seen fight.

agreed....i dont know what you saw that moved you to think Floyd stops him when lesser guys went the distance


i used to have lists like that lol....years ago....not now

[PAC-BOY]

No hats, they look like engineer hats.

Don't have any Money Team merch, nope.

I got a quick question. How can you deny the truth showcased in the three videos I posted? Honestly?

Don't say "yea Floyd was good but" or "he didn't go for knockouts like Crawford" or "refs helped him out" or "Canelo was green", etc. We've already heard it.

The fact is, I posted in response to why Floyd remains the top topic around here. It's because you still got cats like PAC-BOY who can't reconcile it. How does this guy keep beating these fighters like he did?

This isn't even about being a Floyd fan. The facts are the facts. I just thought I'd share videos of the facts.

because they were past primed.
paid off.
out of their weight classes significantly
Ref in the pocket
Or given gift decisions.

only a ***ing moron thinks he was that good to begin with. And that there was no influence of money in his fights with past primed aged at the end of their career fighters. A blind man can see this. But a nut sucking fan...cant.

Welcome to Boxing ....casual

[-Kev-]

****ing LOL @ Mayweather stopping Armstrong. The guy that was walking through puncher’s commonly north of 10+ lbs heavier than him.

So dumb Mayweather can outbox armstrong, but there is also the issue that Mayweather does not like to throw punches, and relies on movement or the referee to cut the opponents workrate. The issue is he can’t move all night with 12 rounds, let alone would he for 15. If Augustus is overwhelming and beating the sht out of Mayweather I dread to think what Armstrong would do to him without a referee to pull them apart.

Mayweather stopped Augustus. Augustus did not “beat the sh/t” out Mayweather. Stop it.

Mayweather commonly fought fighters who were 10+ lbs heavier as well. Their weight didn’t matter as he boxed circles around them.

Fantasy fights between current fighters and old fighters isn’t something i’m fond of talking because it’s not something that will happen. But the two full fights I saw of Armstrong, I saw someone who Mayweather would feast on.

Armstrong wouldn’t stand a chance fighting like that vs Mayweather, Pacquiao, Marquez, Canelo, GGG, etc. And you fake ass, pretentious ass fans need to stop with all of your fake ass bullsh/t saying these old black and white fighters are the sh/t because you think it will get you points from the rest of the pretentious *******s walking around here acting like they wtf they’re talking about.

Back in the f/cking day, sh/t was way different in every sport. What would be considered ordinary today, was extraordinary in the past.

Fastballs in the MLB in the 1920s, 30s, 40s, ranged from 80-86mph. At 86mph you were throwing heat. The fastest i’ve thrown, a non-MLB player, was 81mph, I was 19. Clearly I “******” as a pitcher, but I was a position player. There are 18 year olds today throwing 90mph. There are 21 year olds throwing 100mph. That’s right, the great Babe Ruth was smashing 80-86mph fast balls. And 65-78mph off speed pitches were the norm. I threw 65mph at 14 years old. I’m not a big, tall guy by any means. I do not have a pitchers body frame. I do have great arm strength from the outfield, but not good enough to be a pitcher for today’s standards. For the golden era? I’d have been an average pitcher, a typical pitcher, in the lower tier of MLB pitchers. But still a Major League pitcher. Today i’m a scrub.

What does baseball have to do with boxing? Any sport you look at in the past, MLB, NBA, NFL, you will see many, many inferior athletes to today. Ordinary things today, that won’t get you looked at twice by coaches and scouts, would’ve had scouts and coaches of the past jumping through the roof.

It’s an argument that will lead to nowhere. I know. Not many will agree with me. People are way too fixated on looking smarter than they are, appearing to know more than they do, and wanting to be in the in-crowd. Wanting to be accepted by their community, and you do that by agreeing with a community and supporting their beliefs. So no one is going to think logically.

I am roaming in a community that thinks that smaller, shorter HW’s of the past like 6’3” 215lb Muhammad Ali, would beat 6’9”, 270lb athletic giants of today like Tyson Fury. Ali was so much greater than a lot of the heavyweights of his time because he towered over them and was heavier than them, and was more athletic than them. When Ali finally met someone really good, and his height, and 5lbs heavier than him, it was a really tough fight, he took a beating but won. And that was 6’3” 220lb Foreman, another giant of Ali’s time. Ali and Foreman were so big for their time, that Foreman came back in the 1990s and was still a giant, bigger and taller than Holyfield and Moorer, and at 250-260lbs, not many HW’s of the 90s were as heavy or heavier. That gives you a perspective on how big and tall Ali and Foreman were for their time.

Armstrong was great, he is clearly an all time great. But he wouldn’t stand a chance, with his style, against many fighters of today. Fighters of his weight are just way more athletic. Way too athletic for him and his style.

[The Big Dunn]

Floyd never wins any fantasy fights on nsb. His record is 0-75 in NSB fantasy fights. If there was a fantasy boxing fight HOF Floyd would never get in.

[-Kev-]

agreed....i dont know what you saw that moved you to think Floyd stops him when lesser guys went the distance


i used to have lists like that lol....years ago....not now

One vs Barney Ross, another one vs Lou Ambers.

You just put “Henry Armstrong full fights” on youtube and several fights come out. I understand that at the time Armstrong was a beast. But in 2020, from what I saw, i’m far from impressed. Actually while watching the fights, I find some of the posts describing Armstrong amusing. Like have they actually seen these fights and are they seeing what i’m seeing? They must be talking out their asses, trying to impress the boxing community, trying to be liked. There is no way in hell that Armstrong goes the distance today, fighting like that vs many of todays good fighters. I’m sorry if I hurt anyone old school fighter lover’s feelings. But that’s impossible.

Back to the MLB analogy. You bring the pitcher with the best fastball from the 1920-1940s in today, with the same fastball, 86mph. Dude would get absolutely destroyed. He won’t get sent down to the minors, he will be told to go home and take up a trade or something. Athletes of yesterday just don’t stand a chance today. Same with the argument of how good NBA players were when NBA started vs the one’s from today. A ridiculous argument that is argued in all sports. Boxing is no different I see.

[-Kev-]

Floyd never wins any fantasy fights on nsb. His record is 0-75 in NSB fantasy fights. If there was a fantasy boxing fight HOF Floyd would never get in.

With my athleticism and skillset, I was born in the wrong era. I’d have apparently been a star in multiple sports in the 1900-1950 range, and i’d have been talked about as if i’m an unbeatable Superhero in 2020. I f/cked up being born in 1988. I’m pretty damn athletic today, just not enough to make it in any pro sport, not enough support either. I’d also probably been fantasy beating the likes of Mayweather, Pacquiao, Canelo if I was a great boxer in the 1940-1950s. Because a great athlete in one era, would be great in any era.

[Skip Bayless]

the guys with the best chance are sugar ray leonard and tommy hearns.

[GrandpaBernard]

Armstrong a top 2 greatest swarmer of all time

He someone who could beat Floyd even as the much smaller man imo