5 fighters who would have beat Floyd Mayweather.

[White Mandela]

Floyd really does own this forum and all of you losers in it. Y’all are obsessed lol. It’s a beautiful site. That ether burns forever.

Well saying “pac is top 3 all time” is a laughably ridiculous statement. If Floyd never existed it would be just as ridiculous of a statement to make. Troll threads like that are made by pacquiao stan boys.

When it comes to Floyd, most threads made about him are made by his haters who just happen to be stan boys of other fighters. Just about every single day there’s some kind of thread made to discredit him. You people will never get over the 50-0 dominate career where there was nobody his equal. Floyd’s career has scarred many of you for life and y’all deserve it. I take a lot of glee out of seeing the tears.

Ive never seen any athlete that had his “haters” so obsessed with him as Mayweather does. Even you guys that claim you don’t like him make numerous threads about him daily and it’s been 5 years since he fought any boxers. Admit it. You guys are desperate for him to come back.

Personally I think Aaron Pryor would’ve been a tough fight for Floyd. TBE has said this himself. AP was a monster and a great fighter he gets a lot of respect from me. Alexis Arguello also would have presented an interesting challenge but I’ve gotta go with Floyd especially at 130-140 but both of those guys are all time greats.

I’m taking Floyd over SRL because of the mental game. Ray didn’t have the mental intelligence of a Floyd Mayweather. He let Durán get in his head and fought completely the wrong style. That never would’ve happened with Mayweather and he had better skills and was smarter than Duran, Hagler and Hearns. All great fighters in their own right. TBE gets in his head and makes him fight his fight, much like he did against De La Hoya. Easy for you guys to be nostalgic and say he beat Hagler/Hearns etc but those guys were there to be hit and TBE isn’t. That’s a problem he wouldn’t be able to overcome, along with the mental game. Floyd is too smart and too skilled. Although I do think it would be a competitive/close fight.

That's because this is what really gets in people's craw about Floyd - whenever he was announced to fight people, NSB said Floyd was about to lose, they believed the trash talk from the opponent. They said all Floyd did was run.

Then we all saw the truth of the matter.

I am now convinced that Floyd truly is the GOAT. He still owns this forum

Before almost all Floyd fights this board has a group of people screaming how he is going to lose...then after he wins all the excuses come out....if you made a thread to list 5 people scattered thru history to beat a person that must means they are great

I’ve noticed that yes, there’s a TON of Floyd groupies here.

He’s top 10 for sure. But I wouldn’t put him top 5.

You’re right Hew.

Look at all these TMT b******.

How many of you own a TMT hat?

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#1 Ray Robinson. The real TBE. Smoother and sharper. He’d knock May out.

#2 Ray Leonard. An all round better fighter, his superior offensive game allows him to outbox Mayweather.

#3 Tommy Hearns. Too big, too strong and too long. Hearns by KO.

#4 Oscar De La Hoya. We seen the problems a burnt out, binged out Oscar caused Money. Imagine what a prime De La Hoya could have done with that left hook. De La Hoya by decision.

#5 Vasyl Lomachenko. At 130 lbs Floyd wouldn’t be able to cope with the constant pressure and multiple dimensions of Loma’s style. Loma uses his superior pedigree and takes the UD.

Before any of you TBE snap back wearing b****es get all sensitive. These are just opinions so no tears! Pull your TMT crew socks up and man up!!!

Post and discuss...

The fact you had to do this and can only name 5 from different is basically praise. Loma would get wrecked and De la Hoya already took that L

[White Mandela]

I agree all those guys could beat mayweather . I would pick #1-3 for sure . De la hoya could for sure but that would still be close . And floyd would win some if they fought a bunch . As for Loma I think he could beat mayweather at 130 , but I would favour floyd tbh . But that's just my opinion. What about the Duran who fought ray the first time ? Do u think that he could beat floyd ??

I think the main thing 1-4 have in common that would beat floyd is the jab . They have the length . Floyd has very long reach for his height , I think that's why alot of fighters couldn't be too effective with the jab , which imo is the key to beating floyd from a technical stand point . Other than that killer instinct and heart comes into play, and 1-4 had all of the above .

Great post Norm. Nice breakdown.

not gonna lie...lil loma beating pretty boy floyd who is faster hits harder and is more elusive is a laugh....the other guys are natural welterweights and all time greats who won titles as high as light heavyweight except oscar whom fought as high as 160 and floyd beat him when both past 30 at 154


fighters who could beat floyd in his best divisions 140 and below would be Henry armstrong, Duran(135), Whitaker, Hector Camacho of the mid 90s and possibly aaron pryor at 140

i dont often match him against welters and higher because its not his best weights and he is clearly smaller than the rest of the ATGs...same for whitaker who was a great champ there just undersized

You’re crazily underestimating Loma’s ring IQ. He’d challenge Floyd mentally far more than anyone ever has.

Armstrong would have been a nice style for May. Sweet Pea gives him problems but Mayweather works him out. Duran possibly beats him at 135.

Mayweather only loses to the 4Kings at 147 and Chavez and Pryor at 140.

The rest of the match-ups are toss ups.

He’d beat Chavez. Duran gives him hell at 135 but that would be a close decision. I think his length allows him to outbox Pryor.

I think that Hector Camacho at 130 was a blur of cobra speed, angles, and offence and to me he had the best chance at the lower weights. His footage at 130 was so much better than when he started doing drugs and partying at 135 and up. No way on God's green earth does Mayweather avoid getting hit often by this version of Camacho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1kf_FkkaYM

Camacho probably gives him problems early but Floyd works him out and starts to time him.

Disagree with #5 and #6.

There was only five. You can’t count my friend.

Just my opinions fellas. Good stuff!

[White Mandela]

The fact you had to do this and can only name 5 from different is basically praise. Loma would get wrecked and De la Hoya already took that L

Another TMT p****.

Do you own a TBE cap?

[-Kev-]

not gonna lie...lil loma beating pretty boy floyd who is faster hits harder and is more elusive is a laugh....the other guys are natural welterweights and all time greats who won titles as high as light heavyweight except oscar whom fought as high as 160 and floyd beat him when both past 30 at 154


fighters who could beat floyd in his best divisions 140 and below would be Henry armstrong, Duran(135), Whitaker, Hector Camacho of the mid 90s and possibly aaron pryor at 140

i dont often match him against welters and higher because its not his best weights and he is clearly smaller than the rest of the ATGs...same for whitaker who was a great champ there just undersized

I think Henry Armstrong would get outboxed, absolutely clobbered, hammered and humiliated by Mayweather. Mayweather would brutalize him in a stoppage win that would look like a hybrid performance of Mayweather vs Marquez and Mayweather vs Gatti.

Armstrong loved to fight in dog fights, inside, with his hands low. I can not see in 10 out of 10 fights, how Armstrong would win even 1. It would be target practice for Mayweather.

An absolute slaughter of a performance by Mayweather. Too short, severe reach disadvantage, and just a terrible style to use vs Mayweather. The 152 wins on his record does not cover his 22 losses, some of those losses being against “bum of the month” type of opponents in his peak and prime. The destruction would look so bad, and Floyd would be so heavily favored, that the fight would be called a cherrypick.

[Goldie]

You’re crazily underestimating Loma’s ring IQ. He’d challenge Floyd mentally far more than anyone ever has.

Look at this loma fan girl waving his pom poms. The guy has had 15 fights none of which has been against anyone remotely in Floyd’s class. Y’all insist upon trying to paint this guy as the smartest most skilled fighter out here and it’s bullsht. The Linares fight exposed that lie for what it is. As I always say, I give loma a lot of credit for pulling out that Linares fight because it took heart toughness and showed that he has some dog in him. He’s not as skilled or as smart as the hype though. A fighter as smart and skilled as loma is supposed to be doesn’t get hit 200 times by Linares. He doesn’t get dropped by the punch that Linares put him down with either. The super lightweight and lightweight version of Floyd stops current version of loma. He’s too small and too available to be hit.

He hasn’t even done enough to be mentioned in these atg fantasy matchups. Y’all are just desperate to try and pump somebody white up.

[therealpugilist]

I think Henry Armstrong would get outboxed, absolutely clobbered, hammered and humiliated by Mayweather. Mayweather would brutalize him in a stoppage win that would look like a hybrid performance of Mayweather vs Marquez and Mayweather vs Gatti.

Armstrong loved to fight in dog fights, inside, with his hands low. I can not see in 10 out of 10 fights, how Armstrong would win even 1. It would be target practice for Mayweather.

An absolute slaughter of a performance by Mayweather. Too short, severe reach disadvantage, and just a terrible style to use vs Mayweather. The 152 wins on his record does not cover his 22 losses, some of those losses being against “bum of the month” type of opponents in his peak and prime. The destruction would look so bad, and Floyd would be so heavily favored, that the fight would be called a cherrypick.

armstrong was like jesus chavez on crack. I understand if you havent watched much of Armstrong but there is plenty of footage available. he had a bob and weave style and did get hit clean alot, knew how to shift his feet roll and ride shots, had endless stamina a great chin, stopped only 2 times, his first fight and 134th fight when he lost his title to hall of famer fritzie zivic in their second fight....


bum of the month is a term used by many fans who dont even know who these fighters fought. he started his career 1-4 and was learning on the job like most fighters back then. by the time he won the featherweight title he was 76-12 ...he won some lost some, 2 losses to baby arizimendi, lost to some unknowns on the way up. went on to avenge losses to the babe but also beat hall of famers midget wolgast, juan zurita, frankie klick, and benny bass

in a 3 year span from 1937 to 1940 he went 50 fights with one loss most were kos across 3 divisions only losing to Lou Ambers, whom he also beat, hall of famers barney ross, chalky wright, pedro montanez, cefereino garcia

after losing the title he was still a contender beat zivic in a non title affair, willie joyce one of the best 135 lbers of the era, sammy angott and tippy larkin

if you never watched or studied armstrong do so before you trash the man, i dont even think youve heard of many of his opponents or seen their fights.....barney ross p4p is one of the best ever and Armstong absolutely battered him, So was ambers at 135.

[therealpugilist]

Great post Norm. Nice breakdown.



You’re crazily underestimating Loma’s ring IQ. He’d challenge Floyd mentally far more than anyone ever has.

Armstrong would have been a nice style for May. Sweet Pea gives him problems but Mayweather works him out. Duran possibly beats him at 135.



He’d beat Chavez. Duran gives him hell at 135 but that would be a close decision. I think his length allows him to outbox Pryor.



Camacho probably gives him problems early but Floyd works him out and starts to time him.



There was only five. You can’t count my friend.

Just my opinions fellas. Good stuff!

floyd has shown he is one of if not the smartest and adaptable fighter in a ring and even had this at a young age....also consider floyd is taller, faster, has the reach speed and power



loma is no pressure fighter and makes wasted movements and foot moves......he'd have success until about round 4 when mayweather has his time and distance down



loma has been in there with decent fighters, floyd has proven his iq versus all time greats and hall of famers...big difference.


his IQ is so high but salido outsmarted him, and he is walking down bigger guys getting marked up and hit more often.....great fighter, too small for floyd

[therealpugilist]

I think Henry Armstrong would get outboxed, absolutely clobbered, hammered and humiliated by Mayweather. Mayweather would brutalize him in a stoppage win that would look like a hybrid performance of Mayweather vs Marquez and Mayweather vs Gatti.

Armstrong loved to fight in dog fights, inside, with his hands low. I can not see in 10 out of 10 fights, how Armstrong would win even 1. It would be target practice for Mayweather.

An absolute slaughter of a performance by Mayweather. Too short, severe reach disadvantage, and just a terrible style to use vs Mayweather. The 152 wins on his record does not cover his 22 losses, some of those losses being against “bum of the month” type of opponents in his peak and prime. The destruction would look so bad, and Floyd would be so heavily favored, that the fight would be called a cherrypick.

watch these and check out his subtle skills, armstrong was no skill-less caveman

great chin, one of the best inside fighters ever, sneaky right hand, great uppercuts inside and knew how to get inside control, move his man to ropes,etc. he knew where to place his head for defense, lift his man up and come underneath....so much stuff he does the untrained eye doesnt understand...slipping rolling, cross arm defense, throwing off defense

[Combat Talk Radio]

You’re right Hew.

Look at all these TMT b******.

How many of you own a TMT hat?

No hats, they look like engineer hats.

Don't have any Money Team merch, nope.

I got a quick question. How can you deny the truth showcased in the three videos I posted? Honestly?

Don't say "yea Floyd was good but" or "he didn't go for knockouts like Crawford" or "refs helped him out" or "Canelo was green", etc. We've already heard it.

The fact is, I posted in response to why Floyd remains the top topic around here. It's because you still got cats like PAC-BOY who can't reconcile it. How does this guy keep beating these fighters like he did?

This isn't even about being a Floyd fan. The facts are the facts. I just thought I'd share videos of the facts.