Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Pacquiao, Devin Haney, Ruiz-Reynoso, More

[VatoMulatto]

Every Mexican will tell you when they fight one black you fight at least 5...

Why do you keep on talking about this?

The question was about people usually don't admit that race plays a big factor when watching a street fight. People subconsciously root for their own race but won't admit it. Do you agree with that or not?

[Shadoww702]

Why do you keep on talking about this?

The question was about people usually don't admit that race plays a big factor when watching a street fight. People subconsciously root for their own race but won't admit it. Do you agree with that or not?

Honestly I look to see if it's a fair fight first and are they even the same size. Just like if I saw a dude beating up a chick I'm not going to say "Hey he's MexiCAN so she deserved it".

[Goldie]

Every Mexican will tell you when they fight one black you fight at least 5...

Meanwhile in reality Mexicans are literally terrorizing blacks in LA and other parts of Cali just because they’ve got the numbers.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews...%3fid=13794815

Even in the prisons out in Cali the Mexicans have literally aligned with the white supremacists against the blacks.

[pasawayako]

I think should be top 1 ATG never in the history of boxing came close to pac achievements.

8 Division champion
5 division lineal champion
4 decade champion
flyweight champion upto jr. middleweight champion
Oldest welterweight champion
Youngest lineal flyweight champion.

pac had 6 records that no boxer has ever achieved..

[harry-greb]

* Pac LOST to Mayweather

* Mayweather schooled fighters who KTFO Pacquiao

* Mayweather beat fighters that Pacquiao could not beat

* Mayweather has a better resume... with NO losses

so, yea... no he is not LMAO

There's not that much between them but pacquiao is slightly greater in my opinion.
He dared to be great a little more than Floyd and has the slightly better resume.

Pep lost to saddler, Duran lost to Hearns, Louis lost to Marciano etc. Are Duran pep and Louis not greater overall than their 3 opponents??
Pacquiao demolished fighters that Floyd struggled with too.

And on Floyd's biggest night, where he had every advantage, ( size, strength, weight, arm length) he safety first'd against a lightweight pacquiao fighting at welter. If pacquiao had those same advantages over Floyd do u think he would have fiddled and farted about in there??? NO, he would have stepped to Floyd and demolished him (daring to be great)
Both all time greats but pacquiao edges it for me

[aboutfkntime]

There's not that much between them but pacquiao is slightly greater in my opinion.
He dared to be great a little more than Floyd and has the slightly better resume.

Pep lost to saddler, Duran lost to Hearns, Louis lost to Marciano etc. Are Duran pep and Louis not greater overall than their 3 opponents??
Pacquiao demolished fighters that Floyd struggled with too.

And on Floyd's biggest night, where he had every advantage, ( size, strength, weight, arm length) he safety first'd against a lightweight pacquiao fighting at welter. If pacquiao had those same advantages over Floyd do u think he would have fiddled and farted about in there??? NO, he would have stepped to Floyd and demolished him (daring to be great)
Both all time greats but pacquiao edges it for me

Mayweather is simply better in every department

there is only one criteria for greatness...

WHO did you beat... with consideration given to when/how

consideration is also given to losses, but mainly when comparing fighters against other greats... because greatness is defined by high-points, not by low-points

that is how historians rate fighters, check Cliff Rold's MAAT

comparing fighters against other greats, is what we are doing now... so losses are relevant, and do count

it is actually ridiculous to suggest that losses do not count

Mayweather simply has a better resume than Pacquiao

he beat better caliber fighters, when they were at a better stage in their career

there are plenty of question-marks over Pacquiao's career... he was very carefully managed, and not the fearless warrior you make out... from manny-weight... to the best match-making in the business from Bruce Trampler and Brad Goodman... fighting guys at the very lowest point in their career like Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Margarito, Mosley, etc...

there was a string of red-hot #3 welters... Pac did not fight any of them, not one... until he faced Mayweather, Pac's only top 5 opponent was Bradley... Mayweather fought ALL of those number #3 welters, when they were hot

while Mayweather was fighting those hot #3's... Pac was fighting all those Top Rank inhouse junior welters, at 144... Rios Algieri Vargas Matthyse...

... why wouldn't Pac rematch Cotto at 150? ... Arum said Cotto was their first pick, but that fight died over weight... Pac demanded 147, knowing Cotto had moved up to 154, and he would not negotiate like he did with Margarito... and why all those excuses to avoid Mosley, until it became clearly obvious that Shane was shot?

and then, there are other su****ions... lets just leave that one there

Pacquiao does not have wins that match the following...
* Canelo
* Pacquiao
* Marquez

those 3 wins are better than anything ob Pac's resume

Mayweather achieved better high-points than Pacquiao, not even close

and he did not experience the low-points... numerous losses, some by shocking knockout

really... it is not that close

like I have been saying for years, and nothing has changed... Mayweather is top 15'ish, maybe slightly higher... Pacquiao is top 25'ish, maybe slightly higher

[aboutfkntime]

none of that shlt even existed back in Sullivan's day...

I think should be top 1 ATG never in the history of boxing came close to pac achievements.

8 Division champion
5 division lineal champion
4 decade champion
flyweight champion upto jr. middleweight champion
Oldest welterweight champion
Youngest lineal flyweight champion.

pac had 6 records that no boxer has ever achieved..

none of that wank is criteria for greatness

NONE !!

now I see why you pac-tards get it so bent LMAO

WHO did you beat... with consideration given to when/how

Pacquiao does not have better wins better than...

* Canelo
* Pacquiao
* Marquez

/story

[sargo]

Mayweather was given a gift in Las Vegas. Just like the the****utic IV exemption. Floyd ran from Pacquiao. He knows it. Senior knows it. He lost to the naturally smaller man. Running away.

[aboutfkntime]

Mayweather was given a gift in Las Vegas. Just like the the****utic IV exemption. Floyd ran from Pacquiao. He knows it. Senior knows it. He lost to the naturally smaller man. Running away.

1 tiny sentence... filled with 10 silly excuses...

wow, you must be a pac-tard

[sargo]

Meanwhile, Pacquiao at age 40 sets more records winning a welterweight championship against an undefeated fighter 10 years younger.

Mayweather fights a small kickboxer and MMA fighter. Great.