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  • Drigo
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    #31
    I agree with Roy Jones. All Fury needs to do is continue to fight the way he is fighting and soon he can be as great as Ali...

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    • Boxviewer
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      #32
      Originally posted by lion33lit
      Lol! I get it. Roy re-emphasizes he "discovered" Fury. So he has to talk him up every chance he gets. Kinda like Diana Ross discovering the Jackson 5...lol...

      I wonder if Ali wouldve used the same dry hump **** tactics that Fury used to help cheat Wilder out of his title.... For a BIG TALL skillful guy that's known primarily for having exceptional "boxing skills," Fury sure didnt seem to rely on em.' He relied on placing his gut on Wilder every chance he got - topped off with palm strikes ...hmmmm.

      I see Ali keeping his strategy at a distance with the use of jabs combinations and defensive footwork, maybe even using the Rope-A-Dope. NOT wrestling or resting his heavy gut weight on the smaller guy (maybe Ali would if he had that type of buffalo weight to rest) with MMA headlocks & palm strikes. Ali did "rest" on Frazier, but thats only because Frazier stayed on the inside, practically stuck to Ali like no other opponent Ali has ever faced.

      The only thing Fury didn't accomplish was grappling Wilder from the rear and bodyslamming him..... Fury did more of what Foreman did to Ali - kept coming forward with a barrage of heavy punches to try an intimidate and tire out the smaller guy. George wasnt the dry hump raping type though, so Fury is in a class by himself..... Fury was scared and didn't rely much on boxing at all...
      Well said. I was not impressed by Fury's boxing at all but his dirty tactics were very effective against a Wilder as weak as a soaked bread, boxingwise.

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      • Nash out
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        #33
        Originally posted by joe strong
        I was a big Neven Pajkic fan prior to his fight with Fury being he was the first Canadian champion I watched in my era that was actually fighting & beating American journeymen like Raphael Butler, Jason Gavern & Johnny White. When he fought Fury I thought it was a BS stoppage. I never took Fury seriously before that fight but I did watch all his fights. I really started taking him seriously when he fought Martin Rogan. He fought Rogan in the southpaw stance for the entire fight. He never once got back in the orthodox stance. Sure Rogan was no world beater but he beat some good names on the domestic scene & was expected to give him a decent fight. Fury pummelled him for 5 rounds until they stopped it. Nobody saw the southpaw thing coming. That changed every future opponents's gameplan against him as they now had to take that into consideration in training camp. I have always said since that fight there is no solid gameplan to fight Fury because he is so versatile & you never know what he is going to do. His ring IQ & skillset is off the charts...
        I watch all of Fury's fights and yeah I remember being surprised when he fought southpaw against Rogan, who at the time was a good opponent, especially one to be experimenting with. The pajkic stoppage was a good one though. Fury looked like knocking him down with every shot he was landing at that stage and Pajkic was just wobbling around the ring, he wasn't bad though and I never understood why he only had 1 fight after that? Pajkic vs Price back then would have been interesting.

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        • topo5358
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          #34
          Smart Boxer, Yes, Mind Like Ali, Not Even Close

          Fury has fought 2 good fighters, both with easily identifiable weaknesses. Wilder put him on his back twice. Who, in 60 fights, put Ali on his back twice in the same fight? Ali fought 5X that many GREAT fighters including great punchers and great boxers, many well after Ali turned 30. Any comparison to Ali is unjustified. Ali was also extremely strong-minded. How much of an underdog was he to Liston, at 22 years old, to Foreman at 32 years old? How many people did Ali beat who would have been great champions in any other era? I'm afraid Fury has got to show more than a few flashy moves, no doubt copied from Ali, to be considered on anywhere near an equal plane with Ali. Don't hold your breath.

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          • hugh grant
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            #35
            Originally posted by topo5358
            Fury has fought 2 good fighters, both with easily identifiable weaknesses. Wilder put him on his back twice. Who, in 60 fights, put Ali on his back twice in the same fight? Ali fought 5X that many GREAT fighters including great punchers and great boxers, many well after Ali turned 30. Any comparison to Ali is unjustified. Ali was also extremely strong-minded. How much of an underdog was he to Liston, at 22 years old, to Foreman at 32 years old? How many people did Ali beat who would have been great champions in any other era? I'm afraid Fury has got to show more than a few flashy moves, no doubt copied from Ali, to be considered on anywhere near an equal plane with Ali. Don't hold your breath.
            Don't be too harsh on fury. He got off canvas twice to win.
            He will win a few more before he's gone and fury will be best of era of he does what people think he can against josh.
            Being best of era is all he can do

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              #36
              Originally posted by 5000boxing
              Lol... I can't wait until I can read all the comments after Wilder knocks Furys head clean off!! Lmao
              He already had two chances to do that and failed miserably! Are you ******ed?

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                #37
                Originally posted by vitruvian
                Now here is a classic case of a sore loser and delusions.
                Are you calling Roy Jones a sore loser? Wtf are you talking about? Wilder is the one who is a delusional sore loser coming up with excuse after excuse for why he got decimated instead of accepting the loss like a man. Unbelievable.

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                • theface07
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by O Prophet
                  One of the best cheaters for sure.
                  Oh look, another bomb squad baby is crying again...don't forget your bottle baby:

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                  • Bunch Pag
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by 5000boxing
                    Lol... I can't wait until I can read all the comments after Wilder knocks Furys head clean off!! Lmao
                    He may well do..

                    Be a tad strange if he does. Going on Wilders theory of Fury not being a champion it'd be 1-1 an a draw leaving just one world champion in AJ.....

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                    • joe strong
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Nash out
                      I watch all of Fury's fights and yeah I remember being surprised when he fought southpaw against Rogan, who at the time was a good opponent, especially one to be experimenting with. The pajkic stoppage was a good one though. Fury looked like knocking him down with every shot he was landing at that stage and Pajkic was just wobbling around the ring, he wasn't bad though and I never understood why he only had 1 fight after that? Pajkic vs Price back then would have been interesting.
                      Do you remember how pissed Pajkic was after that fight & when the announcer said Pajkic could not continue he grabbed the microphone out of his hand & said yeah I could continue. Pajkic was a tough SOB who could take a big bomb. He was like a poor man's Francois Botha. He would stand in the middle of the ring & trade with anyone but the problem was he was usually outgunned. Pajkic & Botha were not big punchers but they were not afraid to mix it up. They went to a gun fight with a knife. Pajkic was so pissed after that Fury fight he pretty much retired as he was making good money as a movie stuntman & occasional acting role. He has a pretty impressive resume of movies he was in as a stuntman or a small role in... I really liked him as a HW. He was fighting the usual journeymen of 2005-2012 era & beating them. His lack of punching power made those fights more difficult & close but he still won. He beat Gavern, Firtha, Johnny White then had a barn burner with big punching Raphael Butler. Butler didn't have the best chin but man could he punch. Pajkic took some of the biggest uppercuts I ever seen & still kept coming. I think he could have got into the top 20 if he continued. His only loss was to Fury & i thought after dropping Fury he should have been given more of a chance to continue. I am a little bias as I know how tough Pajkic was after seeing most of his fights so to me it was an early stoppage. No shame in losing to Fury though when you look at him now. The journeymen he beat were the same guys Wilder, Joshua & many other contenders had to beat to move up. I always wanted to see Pajkic vs Tye Fields when he was up here in my city fighting.
                      Last edited by joe strong; 04-18-2020, 12:28 PM.

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