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Originally posted by Shadoww702
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these guys just fabricate real occurences. Canelo has more consistent style with Ali, Robinson, Floyd, or Leonard.... all from combination assault punching to elite level counter punching. But these guys try to trick forum readers to say those greater did wha GGG does even though they're trying to say GGG what they did. we got wHAt twIsTed!.. LMAO -
Both Charlos, Spence and a sht ton of other fighters and trainers as well. Even Abel Sanchez....Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez View Post
And how many guys that thought they won RAN from the ring CRYiNG have you seen????Comment
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They go straight to compubox and that’s who they pick won a fight.Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez View Post
They IGNORE Combos, Body punching, DEFENSE, Power Punches, Connect rate, counter punching... which clearly Canelo won everyone of these categories.
Have you ever seen a supposed ATG miss 1200+++ in 2 fights??? That ain’t skill that’s thinking your a baller and get nicknamed brick city if you was on the basketball court.
NBA do you want a guys who jacks up 1200 3’s but only makes 220 of them???
Or you want a guy who jacks up 600 but makes 280??? I want the sharpshooter who also mixes it up.Comment
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You want a guy who lands a TERRIBLE 22% or one who is efficient and lands close to 50%???
Canelo made GGG say No Mas to that MexiCAN style.Comment
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The Canelo hate gets old, but Kovalev and GGG salty with their losses and bring up excuses. Like you said, one walked away from the ring. Kovalev saying he had no chance...ffsOriginally posted by Shadoww702 View Post
At least Jacobs was humbled in defeat, and he talked mad shetLast edited by Thuglife Nelo; 04-15-2020, 03:09 AM.Comment
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You are trying to win this debate by deliberately misinterpreting what others post and wildly exaggerating.Originally posted by Shadoww702 View PostComment
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No those guys can adapt in the ring. There is a reason Canelo didn't win the first fight. He didn't adapt. He stuck to his plan which involved getting embarrassed along the ropes. He abandoned the center of the ring against his trainers advice. He went to the ropes to get outpointed. Rinse and repeat He got outboxed in that fight and didn't make the necessary adjustments. Don't even mention Canelo's name in the same sentence it's an insult to those great fighters.Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez View PostComment
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stopped reading here. what does your first comment even detail in regards to my posts/conversation? all elite level fighters can adapt. as proven, just another tangent to compare GGG to Ali, Robinson, Leonard, Floyd when the conversation was about compubox and innacuracy. Give me a fight where Floyd, Leonard, Robinson, Ali simply just threw jabs against their hardest challenges and then missing with the worst compubox performance?Originally posted by TonyGe View Post
As you can see, that's why I stopped reading cause you guys just, again, fabricate any type of debateComment
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Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez View Post
Floyd's toughest or closest fight is widely considered to have been Castillo right? The story of both fights, especially the first was Floyd's jab, man, though granted Floyd was more efficient with it than Trip. That said I never saw any scoring criteria that said throwing more to land more should be penalised.
At the top level every fighter will try to use whatever tools they got to get an edge, given the quality of Canelo's countering GGG was left largely dependent on the jab or risk getting his ass countered off. Simple fact is neither fighter was really able to do what they wanted in the second fight, Canelo's efforts to impose his will in becoming an offensive counter-puncher (GGGs typical role) were foiled by Golovkin's refusal to give up the center or be pressured into the mistake but equally Golovkin was denied his usual stalking role and unable to mount any consistent offense or really do much beyond the jab (although that was far from all he did - there was some lovely uppercuts and hooks from both guys).
Both guys were extremely respectful of the others abilities and the way the fight went showed it... what you often get with two top level operators in the ring.Last edited by Citizen Koba; 04-15-2020, 06:07 AM.Comment
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Dude, context for the odds means much? Who was the favorite in GGG vs Canelo 1? Castillo was stopped 4 times in all his 4 losses leading to Floyd. Who was the favorite in Floyd vs Castillo 1? And again, why even compare GGG's jab only performance to Floyd Castillo 1?! Are we just going to generalize using a jab from elites and not take in contextual evidence about power punching or variances in compubox with all fighters compared in the convo?Originally posted by Citizen Koba View Post Floyd's toughest or closest fight is widely considered to have been Castillo right? The story of both fights, especially the first was Floyd's jab, man, though granted Floyd was more efficient with it than Trip. That said I never saw any scoring criteria that said throwing more to land more should be penalised.
At the top level every fighter will try to use whatever tools they got to get an edge, given the quality of Canelo's countering GGG was left largely dependent on the jab or risk getting his ass countered off. Simple fact is neither fighter was really able to do what they wanted in the second fight, Canelo's efforts to impose his will in becoming an offensive counter-puncher (GGGs typical role) were foiled by Golovkin's refusal to give up the center or be pressured into the mistake but equally Golovkin was denied his usual stalking role and unable to mount any consistent offense or really do much beyond the jab (although that was far from all he did - there was some lovely uppercuts and hooks from both guys).
Both guys were extremely respectful of the others abilities and the way the fight went showed it... what you often get with two top level operators in the ring.
Floyd's performance with variance in punches along with compubox for Castillo 1 IS NOT EVEN COMPARABLE TO GGG VS CANELO 1 bruh. stop...Comment
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