Would Luis Ortiz be CHAMP in any other era

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  • JakeTheBoxer
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    #31
    Division is very competitive. Journeyman Helenius finishes undefeated Kownacki inside 4 rounds. Kownacki finishes Washington, Washington finishes Helenius.

    Tyson Fury and Joshua are clearly main figures, outside that it is competitive.

    We can see many competitive fights with guys like Wilder, Povetkin, Hunter, Parker, Ruiz, Whyte, Chisora, Ortiz, Dubois, Joyce, Martin and so on...in the future.
    Last edited by JakeTheBoxer; 04-11-2020, 08:07 AM.

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    • BoloShot
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      #32
      Originally posted by famicommander
      Parker turtled the entire fight against Joshua and I think he'd do the same against Ortiz.

      Ortiz would just potshot him on the outside and wait to hit him with that counter left when he comes out of the shell.

      I don't rate Parker highly at all.
      Hahahaha Ortiz can't keep that up for long and his head is a magnet for right hands. He'd get stopped. Ortiz needs very weak champions to have become one, just like the likes of Pulev could've done the same. ****e overrated PEDhead.

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      • EDDIE SPERM
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        #33
        Dude is a fraud

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        • Madison Boxing
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          #34
          No, hes crap.

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          • bojangles1987
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            #35
            Originally posted by Sadiqkingofko
            He's not beating Joshua, Fury, Wilder, Wlad, or Vitali. He could possibly beat Ruiz, Brewster, Byrd type champs, but if he ran into the 90's heavy's he's not beating Lewis, Holyfield, Foreman, Tyson, or Bowe. He's not gonna beat Spinks, Tyson, or Holmes in the 80's and he's not gonna beat Foreman, Nortan, Fraizer, Ali, and Liston in the 60's and 70's, so i'm not sure he could, it's not a given he can beat Chris Byrd or Lamon Brewster either
            Ortiz could beat 90s Foreman. Worse fighters arguably did.

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            • True-Boxing-Fan
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              #36
              Originally posted by LacedUp
              You clearly don't know what you're talking about.
              Tell me then genius. What is so great about this era besides Fury?

              What, just because it has a little heat after having a shhty previous 10-15 years prior.

              You can put a bow around shht but fact is, it is still a shht.

              But tell me why you think this era is so great.
              Last edited by True-Boxing-Fan; 04-11-2020, 03:57 PM.

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              • tritium_arma
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                #37
                We don't know because he lost his only fight against a decent heavyweight in Wilder. Would need to see him against the likes of the lesser heavies like Parker, Ruiz, etc. Though those would still be the second best heavies on his resume, that's how terrible his competition has been. It's easy to look good against bums.

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                • True-Boxing-Fan
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by LacedUp
                  You clearly don't know what you're talking about.
                  Look dude. I know you are a major U.K. boxing fan. Fact is I am too. I’ve always loved U.K. boxers, they have major grit, heart, and lots of passion when they in the ring and I respect it.

                  But just because there is two U.K. boxers at the top of the HW division doesn’t mean the HW division as a whole is great.

                  Fury imo can hang with any champ in any era, and AJ with his flaws imo if he’s on his A-game can possibly keep up with Fury. But outside then the rest is garbage.

                  Wilder? He’s done and was the epitome of a hype job and Fury toyed with him.

                  So tell me what makes this era of HW so great. Imo after Fury it a major drop and absolute garbage.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by LDBC Slayer
                    I belive Ortiz a top 10 ATG

                    I'm serious
                    I actually have him in the top 5 myself.

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                    • LetOutTheCage
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                      #40
                      No Ortiz is not good enough to be a champion

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