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Originally posted by shadoww702 View Postthree guys i would never fight or recommend fighters fight or wait on...
Always canceled saunders.
Lemuix always hurt or can’t make weight.
A ground hog
He has pulled out of fights with
charlo
lara
deryenchnko
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Originally posted by oldskoolg View Postthe only reasons haymon is “polarising” is because:
1. He’s african-american
2. He’s the most powerful figure in american boxing.
3. Fighters who fight under his banner tend to be loyal to him
4. He has become a symbol of the black conscious movement in the usa which prizes education and economic empowerment
there are your reasons. So plain and simple, racism/white supremacy is why he is “polarising”....a term not used for my ***ish brother bob arum, not used for dlh, and not used for hearn.
Being an old ***, coming from a people who have had the worse of it from nigh on to 3500 years, i call it like i see it. And there are a lot of people in the world, particularly in the usa, uk, australia, etc who want to be racist and spew racist drivel yet are scared to death of the label of being racists.
Let the rants from the ultranationalists, 4/8chan incels, russian trolls, and bigots of all types ensue
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Originally posted by TheFrog View PostHey I'm just responding for fun man. Quarantine and not a whole lot to do you know? I also did not call you 'tough guy' Try again.
What exactly am I refuting? I actually am a fan of Al Haymon and MANY of his fighters. I simply said that not everything is about race. I'm not wrong.
You then hopped in with name calling and I found it funny lol
Let me ask you one question, when did everything stop being about race? Give me the time where race/racism wasn’t always a factor to some degree? When did this era begin?
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Originally posted by thefrog View Postbe better than this.
You write your post in a provocative way in order to bait people in to a racial argument.
Some people think that al haymons way of doing business prevents the best fights from being made. Other people disagree. None of that has anything to do with race.
Don't lump people in with yourself.
jacobs vs andrade?
Haney vs farmer?
Billy joe vs callum smith??
Where is the hatred for that crook eddie for blocking all those fights????
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Originally posted by ray* View Posti think it’s the other way round. Showtime were forced to pay wilder something that they couldn’t recoup against breazeale due to the dazn offer, they had to take a rain check on the ortiz fight, rank are careful what they offer boxers who isn’t in their stable, but they allow their boxers to go fight somewhere else if the offer is great for the individual (which is what an fan should want).
Matchroom are overpaying boxers because they have dazn money (mikey garcia) as an example, but haymon isn’t forcing anyone to pay those boxers. He does cost his fighters money though by letting reject amazing deal for sub standard ones.
You forgot that part son
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I like that Haymon helps fighters with income outside the sport. I think I read that he helps them with real estate and rental properties.
And there is plenty of blame to go around for the lack of good fights. I mean, Terence Crawford will soon be out of his prime, and he has yet to fight any of the top welterweights. His promoter, Top Rank, should share blame for that.
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Originally posted by wrecksracer View Postand yet groundhog gary is still calling him out. Why couldn't haymon put this fight together? Same weight. Both have titles. Anyway, lsc could have had a hof career. He chose not to. He had the promotional push to fight anybody around his weight class (loma, rigo, gr jr., etc, etc). Instead he fights mares twice...now he's gunning for fat dumpling boy davis.
Haymon just made wilder vs fury 2 times!
He made spence vs brook and spence vs porter!
Thurman vs porter and thurman vs danny!
Pbc doesnt care if you lose a fight lmfao!
Thats why pbc is doing the biggest ratings on american tv in combat sports!
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Originally posted by wrecksracer View Postwhich are hof that actually started with haymon? Floyd and pac started with top rank. They were hof before they started working with haymon. None of the others have a hof legacy. There is no question that haymon has good fighters. The question is why they don't carve out hof careers. What is your answer?
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