Comments Thread For: Spence's Trainer: Haymon Made Arum, Matchroom Pay Fighters What They're Worth

[Jim Tom]

Al Haymon is good and he must be doing something right for fighters to be loyal to him. Boxing is a hard way to make a living and while many boxers are not exactly the sharpest knives in a drawer they are still self serving and I’m sure they know cow dung when they see it, Al Haymon can’t be bad. People like Frank Warren don’t pay very well. Remember Ricky Hatton never used to make more than £400k with Frank but started making millions when he left him, Joe Calzaghe didn’t make much money until he left. Actually Calzaghe is still owed money by Frank and Frank Warren even filed for bankruptcy just to make sure he wouldn’t pay Calzaghe. It’s so unfortunate what boxers have to go through. The hardest person done by him was Derek Chisora, the guy was exploited to the bone Murrow, he was basically a slave.

[TheFrog]

The racial dog whistles code words and underhanded talking points are loud and clear, you’re just a sit down to piss pussC too scared to admit the truth even to yourself. Ultimate coward lol.

Lol I know what you're trying to say. Don't hurt yourself.
You are also wrong. Simple as that.

[Oldskoolg]

The man has literally never spoken out in public. He has done zero interviews print or video.........but he’s “polarizing” lol.

These people are such pussCs that they can’t even admit the truth to themselves.

Imagine how much they would hate him if they actually had access to live feeds and quotes from him. They despise him....simply for existing and doing what he has for boxing in America and especially for the hat he symbolises

[Jim Tom]

just out of curiosity, which Haymon fighter has a HOF career? Outside of Pac, who fought the majority of his career with Top Rank. None of them. Take a look at a guy like Leo Santa Cruz. Instead of fighting the most dangerous guys (and there are plenty around his weight class), he fights twice a year against guys he knows he can beat.

Fighters who are currently or were previously represented by Haymon include:

Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Tugstsogt Nyambayar
Manny Pacquiao
Gerald Washington
Adonis Stevenson
Julio César Chávez Jr.
Amir Khan
Peter Quillin
Artur Beterbiev
Josesito López
Hugo Centeno Jr.
Jermell Charlo
Jermall Charlo
Erislandy Lara
Cristobal Arreola
Devon Alexander
Adrien Broner
Gervonta Davis
Andre Berto
Danny García
Austin Trout
Domonique Dolton
Lamont Peterson
Anthony Peterson
Seth Mitchell
Gary Russell Jr.
Dominic Wade
Antonio Tarver
Sakio Bika
Vernon Forrest
Leonard Bundu
Artur Szpilka
Lamon Brewster
Jermain Taylor
J'Leon Love
Omar Figueroa
Paul Williams
Léo Santa Cruz
John Molina, Jr.
Deontay Wilder
Lucas Matthysse
Chris Pearson
Errol Spence Jr.
Marcos Maidana
Julian Williams
Keith Thurman
Paulie Malignaggi
Robert Guerrero
Shawn Porter
Luis Collazo
Travis Kauffman
Rances Barthelemy
Semajay Thomas
Roberto García
Kevin Bizier
Lucian Bute
Andre Dirrell
Anthony Dirrell
Andrzej Fonfara
Carl Frampton
Abner Mares
Eddie Chambers
James Degale
Luis Ortiz
Joe Joyce
Andy Ruiz Jr.
Jarrett Hurd

[Oldskoolg]

that's it in a nutshell

It’s easy to see, and it’s also easy to see who and where his detractors are and where they tend to be from

[wrecksracer]

No clue why? Don’t know why your only blaming Leo?? How the HELL do you plan your schedule around Ground Hog Gary???

and yet Groundhog Gary is still calling him out. Why couldn't Haymon put this fight together? Same weight. Both have titles. Anyway, LSC could have had a HOF career. He chose not to. He had the promotional push to fight anybody around his weight class (Loma, Rigo, GR Jr., etc, etc). Instead he fights Mares twice...now he's gunning for fat dumpling boy Davis.

[wrecksracer]

Fighters who are currently or were previously represented by Haymon include:

Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Tugstsogt Nyambayar
Manny Pacquiao
Gerald Washington
Adonis Stevenson
Julio César Chávez Jr.
Amir Khan
Peter Quillin
Artur Beterbiev
Josesito López
Hugo Centeno Jr.
Jermell Charlo
Jermall Charlo
Erislandy Lara
Cristobal Arreola
Devon Alexander
Adrien Broner
Gervonta Davis
Andre Berto
Danny García
Austin Trout
Domonique Dolton
Lamont Peterson
Anthony Peterson
Seth Mitchell
Gary Russell Jr.
Dominic Wade
Antonio Tarver
Sakio Bika
Vernon Forrest
Leonard Bundu
Artur Szpilka
Lamon Brewster
Jermain Taylor
J'Leon Love
Omar Figueroa
Paul Williams
Léo Santa Cruz
John Molina, Jr.
Deontay Wilder
Lucas Matthysse
Chris Pearson
Errol Spence Jr.
Marcos Maidana
Julian Williams
Keith Thurman
Paulie Malignaggi
Robert Guerrero
Shawn Porter
Luis Collazo
Travis Kauffman
Rances Barthelemy
Semajay Thomas
Roberto García
Kevin Bizier
Lucian Bute
Andre Dirrell
Anthony Dirrell
Andrzej Fonfara
Carl Frampton
Abner Mares
Eddie Chambers
James Degale
Luis Ortiz
Joe Joyce
Andy Ruiz Jr.
Jarrett Hurd

Which are HOF that actually started with Haymon? Floyd and Pac started with Top Rank. They were HOF before they started working with Haymon. None of the others have a HOF legacy. There is no question that Haymon has good fighters. The question is why they don't carve out HOF careers. What is your answer?

[Goldie]

Imagine how much they would hate him if they actually had access to live feeds and quotes from him. They despise him....simply for existing and doing what he has for boxing in America and especially for the hat he symbolises

They’re natural born cowards. It’s inherent meaning they can’t help it. It’s why evil comes so easy to them. Man has always used fear as justification for hate.

Lol I know what you're trying to say. Don't hurt yourself.
You are also wrong. Simple as that.

Considering I spoke in plain simple English I would hope at the minimum that your bird brain having self could “know” what I said. You can actually read? Good. Now only if you had the basic intelligence to conjure up a retort instead of just sucking your teeth with words like a little b1tch.

[daggum]

First off my health insurance tripled with *****care. 2nd I dated nurses and the ones with the FREE health care were the ones abusing it to come into ERooms and such for jack sht! Because they didn’t want to go to work or kids school. Kid had a very tiny fever in ER room. She asked did you give him Tylenol or any over counter??? NOPE right to ER to waste ALL your time.

You free loaders in MediCARE going hundred times a month when nothing is even WRONG is the problem.

IMO they need to RAISE the co-pay so it’s not soo damn cheap you just want to hang out at the doctors and BSht with them...Gonna cost ya! I say $50-100 waive it to $25 or free is really are sic.

*****care is not the same thing as single payer. single payer you would pay less since your health care premiums would go away completely. your taxes would go up but you would save money as a whole, unless you make hundreds of thousands to millions then you would pay slightly more(oh no) your health care tripling is actually a criticism of capitalist markets gauging you but you didn't diagnose the problem correctly. this kind of price gauging doesnt happen in other countries where the goal is to provide care not generate a profit so if your complaint is cost then single payer is the way to go.

im not sure you know how single payer health care works. your anecdotal evidence of people overusing the system doesn't really happen that much from my research of other countries. most people don't want to go a hundred times a month to the doctor or the ER. what more often happens is that in our system people without or with poor health care refuse to go to the doctor because of the cost and end up costing the system far more when their condition worsens. they also have a much better chance of dying if they wait. this is why we have such worse healthcare outcomes compared to other single payer countries.

[markther]

The only reasons haymon is “polarising” is because:

1. He’s African-American
2. He’s the most powerful figure in American boxing.
3. Fighters who fight under his banner tend to be loyal to him
4. He has become a symbol of the Black Conscious movement in the USA which prizes education and economic empowerment

There are your reasons. So plain and simple, RACISM/WHITE SUPREMACY is why he is “polarising”....a term not used for my ***ish brother Bob Arum, not used for DLH, and not used for Hearn.
Being an old ***, coming from a people who have had the worse of it from nigh on to 3500 years, I call it like I see it. And there are a lot of people in the world, particularly in the USA, uk, australia, etc who want to be racist and spew racist drivel yet are scared to death of the label of being racists.
Let the rants from the ultranationalists, 4/8chan INCELS, russian trolls, and bigots of all types ensue

Good post. Add to the list Haymon rarely speaks or does interviews. He just goes about his business and is one of the most influential, powerful and wealthy figures in boxing. That’s really why Arum & others in the industry like him, really can’t stand Haymon. Can’t fault any man for creating his own unique system and approach and building a legacy for himself in professional boxing.