Comments Thread For: Spence's Trainer: Haymon Made Arum, Matchroom Pay Fighters What They're Worth

[TheFrog]

They’re natural born cowards. It’s inherent meaning they can’t help it. It’s why evil comes so easy to them. Man has always used fear as justification for hate.
Considering I spoke in plain simple English I would hope at the minimum that your bird brain having self could “know” what I said. You can actually read? Good. Now only if you had the basic intelligence to conjure up a retort instead of just sucking your teeth with words like a little b1tch.

Again you try to bait me. Again you make yourself look like a goof. I don't even NEED to retort lol.

You think that garbled sentence was plain simple English? Haha go read it and bring it to your parents if you still don't understand.

Keep talking tough on the internet smart guy

[Goldie]

Again you try to bait me. Again you make yourself look like a goof. I don't even NEED to retort lol.

You think that garbled sentence was plain simple English? Haha go read it and bring it to your parents if you still don't understand.

Keep talking tough on the internet smart guy

“Bait you” to do what? Nobody is forcing you to post these passive aggressive responses. If you didn’t feel that my comment was worth a retort then you should’ve just shut the fk up, ignored me and kept it moving. You couldn’t do that though because you’re a b1tch. You can’t refute what I said but you feel the need to say something anyway.

The “tough guy” quip is also rich considering this site is overrun with non blacks who wouldn’t dare have the courage to look up at a black man and say half the racist things that they say here.

[TheFrog]

“Bait you” to do what? Nobody is forcing you to post these passive aggressive responses. If you didn’t feel that my comment was worth a retort then you should’ve just shut the fk up, ignored me and kept it moving. You couldn’t do that though because you’re a b1tch. You can’t refute what I said but you feel the need to say something anyway.

The “tough guy” quip is also rich considering this site is overrun with non blacks who wouldn’t dare have the courage to look up at a black man and say half the racist things that they say here.

Hey I'm just responding for fun man. Quarantine and not a whole lot to do you know? I also did not call you 'tough guy' Try again.

What exactly am I refuting? I actually am a fan of Al Haymon and MANY of his fighters. I simply said that not everything is about race. I'm not wrong.
You then hopped in with name calling and I found it funny lol

[Oldskoolg]

“Bait you” to do what? Nobody is forcing you to post these passive aggressive responses. If you didn’t feel that my comment was worth a retort then you should’ve just shut the fk up, ignored me and kept it moving. You couldn’t do that though because you’re a b1tch. You can’t refute what I said but you feel the need to say something anyway.

The “tough guy” quip is also rich considering this site is overrun with non blacks who wouldn’t dare have the courage to look up at a black man and say half the racist things that they say here.

That last paragraph was probably the most true statement that had ever been posted on boxingscene

[markther]

For the first 10 years of his professional career, Mayweather was a part of Bob Arum's stable of fighters at Top Rank promotion company. But Haymon was very instrumental in building up Floyd to an enormous PPV Star and gate attraction. Haymon helped Floyd get out of his contract with Top Rank for ONLY $750,000, told him to turn down 20 million to fight Oscar before he left, and a year later, helped Floyd negotiate for 25 million to fight Oscar and other things to set the blueprint moving forward.

Haymon advised and helped Floyd to trash the model Top Rank had back then of only getting paid a large guaranteed fee up front by a promotor which was the norm at Top Rank and across the sport. That alone built resentment because Haymon was messing with the “natural order” of everything that stood for years in boxing.

So Haymon advised Mayweather to stage his own fights and take a cut of the total revenue on the back end. Additionally, Haymon advised Floyd to make sure to earn a percentage of every ticket purchased, every pretzel consumed, every poster sold. He earned from countries that paid for broadcasting rights and the theaters where the fights were shown. Haymon & Mayweather orchestrated fights under a highly unusual financial structure, exchanging upfront risk for back-end profit while retaining total control.

So after distributors and networks get their cut, Mayweather gets a bigger piece of the remaining revenue than anyone else in the sport. Every move Haymon advised Mayweather on was designed to give Floyd the largest piece of the pie at the end of the day. And then Haymon has people in his company and outside to help these guys save for retirement and make other investments for their money to last the rest of their life after boxing for taking all that punishment in t he ring and making all those sacrifices outside of it. Even boxers that aren’t working with Haymon, respect him for his overall value and business model. Haymon isn’t perfect by any stretch, but most fighters are much better off after he advised and managed them, “most.” That is why boxers thank Haymon before thanking God, LMAO! That’s why Floyd ALWAYS thanks and mentions Haymon.

[Ray*]

Hey I'm just responding for fun man. Quarantine and not a whole lot to do you know? I also did not call you 'tough guy' Try again.

What exactly am I refuting? I actually am a fan of Al Haymon and MANY of his fighters. I simply said that not everything is about race. I'm not wrong.
You then hopped in with name calling and I found it funny lol

Just laugh and keep it about boxing.

[Shadoww702]

*****care is not the same thing as single payer. single payer you would pay less since your health care premiums would go away completely. your taxes would go up but you would save money as a whole, unless you make hundreds of thousands to millions then you would pay slightly more(oh no) your health care tripling is actually a criticism of capitalist markets gauging you but you didn't diagnose the problem correctly. this kind of price gauging doesnt happen in other countries where the goal is to provide care not generate a profit so if your complaint is cost then single payer is the way to go.

im not sure you know how single payer health care works. your anecdotal evidence of people overusing the system doesn't really happen that much from my research of other countries. most people don't want to go a hundred times a month to the doctor or the ER. what more often happens is that in our system people without or with poor health care refuse to go to the doctor because of the cost and end up costing the system far more when their condition worsens. they also have a much better chance of dying if they wait. this is why we have such worse healthcare outcomes compared to other single payer countries.

I’m going to believe ppl who actually work in the healthcare business over you. Like I said ppl abuse it for Dr. notes so they don’t get fired and can skip work. Same for kids to stay home. Again this coming from ppl work WORK in the field. Not some Canadian dude or whatever.

[Jim Tom]

Which are HOF that actually started with Haymon? Floyd and Pac started with Top Rank. They were HOF before they started working with Haymon. None of the others have a HOF legacy. There is no question that Haymon has good fighters. The question is why they don't carve out HOF careers. What is your answer?

Fighters and trainers are no different from any profession. They start with different managers or promoters but as they become bigger their needs are better met by others. It’s just like the product life cycle (and in any case they are products themselves) which goes through various stages. The same goes with soccer players, basketball players or American football players. There are people whose roles is to identify talent at grassroots level and some develop it for the next stage until they become full fledged players and some only deal with fully established professionals. It’s just a normal food chain. Does dealing with full fledged professionals make you a less professional or mean you are not good for the players. Do you think Real Madrid is not a good team because they mainly sign well proven superstars or you think Southampton is better than Real Madrid because they produce more grassroots players? Or maybe you think Lakers is crap because they sign many well proven players?

[TheFrog]

Just laugh and keep it about boxing.

Agreed! Thanks!

[HaymonzPlanet]

JAMES IS 10000% SPOT ON! GODFATHER HAYMON CHANGED THE GAME AND MADE THE FIGHTERS THE BOSSES!