why is GGG only allowed Hypothetical matchups with Chavez Jr. or Froch?

[Thuglife Nelo]

mention any name or scenario above 160 and it's never acceptable, but mention Froch or Chavez Jr. and that's as good as it gets?

everybody else who is not GGG gets criticized...

[JohnCastellanos]

Yeah the GGG flip flopp squad was claiming that it was much more impressive to rule a division then to move up divisions to fight the best guys which was absolutely ****** AF because 160 was a very weak division till Canelo moved up there. They only opportunistically made this standard up to accommodate GGGs lack of risk taking

[Mr. 29K]

Because we’re dealing with low IQ people from Kawktarzan. They really don’t know shyt about boxing. They only know goat milk, Borrat, and Triple Flop.

[emceetns]

mention any name or scenario above 160 and it's never acceptable, but mention Froch or Chavez Jr. and that's as good as it gets?

everybody else who is not GGG gets criticized...

You can create any hypothetical matchup you want. What does everybody else get criticized for?

[emceetns]

Yeah the GGG flip flopp squad was claiming that it was much more impressive to rule a division then to move up divisions to fight the best guys which was absolutely ****** AF because 160 was a very weak division till Canelo moved up there. They only opportunistically made this standard up to accommodate GGGs lack of risk taking

So basically you're saying that it's ok to rule a division as long as it's a "strong" division, but when it's a "weak" division, a fighter should move up to take risks. Fine, so my question is what constitutes a strong or weak division? Is it just a matter of opinion? Is there something objective you go by? I just want to understand more about where you're coming from.

[boliodogs]

Yeah the GGG flip flopp squad was claiming that it was much more impressive to rule a division then to move up divisions to fight the best guys which was absolutely ****** AF because 160 was a very weak division till Canelo moved up there. They only opportunistically made this standard up to accommodate GGGs lack of risk taking

Anyone who thinks Fielding was the best 168 pound fighter in the world is an idiot who doesn't know sh it about boxing. Anyone who thinks Kovalev was the best light heavyweight in the world when Canelo fought him is an idiot who doesn't know sh it about boxing. Anyone who thinks Canelo who was a 5 to 1 favorite to beat Kovalev and a 15 to 1 favorite to beat Fielding took a big risk in those fights is an idiot.

[boliodogs]

mention any name or scenario above 160 and it's never acceptable, but mention Froch or Chavez Jr. and that's as good as it gets?

everybody else who is not GGG gets criticized...

Trashing GGG and his fans again for the 1000th time. How many more threads will you start today trashing GGG, Spence, Jermall, Loma and Plant and praising the incredible wonderfulness of your beloved Canelo???? Get a ***ing life FFS.

[JohnCastellanos]

So basically you're saying that it's ok to rule a division as long as it's a "strong" division, but when it's a "weak" division, a fighter should move up to take risks. Fine, so my question is what constitutes a strong or weak division? Is it just a matter of opinion? Is there something objective you go by? I just want to understand more about where you're coming from.

Don’t play that “Oh I’m trying understand shet with me!” You know exactly what I’m trying to say: “If you have this monster reputation you need to back it up and not expect all the little guys to come to you, if you get called out by a risky opponent a couple pounds heavier than you then it’s time to prove your worth!” 154 to 168 doe? then fights someone from 147! Wat kinda shet is that?

[4truth]

Golovkin tried to get Chavez to fight him at 168 but couldn't get it.

The cash cow, of course, demanded 164 and got it.

It's pretty easy to understand why Canelo gets the fights he wants, with the conditions he wants and Golovkin couldn't. Why all the effort into pretending that it isn't as simple as money??

[emceetns]

Don’t play that “Oh I’m trying understand shet with me!” You know exactly what I’m trying to say: “If you have this monster reputation you need to back it up and not expect all the little guys to come to you, if you get called out by a risky opponent a couple pounds heavier than you then it’s time to prove your worth!” 154 to 168 doe? then fights someone from 147! Wat kinda shet is that?

It's clear you don't like GGG and that's fine. I do my best to be objective though. Let me respond piece by piece (I don't do rants):

“If you have this monster reputation you need to back it up and not expect all the little guys to come to you"

Golovkin fought Kell Brook instead of Chris Eubank Jr. because Eubank Jr. balked at the last minute. You say Golovkin was waiting for little guys to come to him but is Canelo really that little? I mean, Canelo has actually competed two divisions higher than Golovkin so I don't think he's little at all.

"if you get called out by a risky opponent a couple pounds heavier than you then it’s time to prove your worth!”

Froch turned down an offer to fight Golovkin at 166 and Ward was inactive from 2013-2015. Why was the offer for 168? Probably for the same reason Floyd offered to fight Canelo at 152 instead of 154 and Manny offered to fight Cotto at 145 instead of 147. We may or may not agree but it happens and it's not just Golovkin.

Golovkin isn't perfect and Lord knows I wish he never said anything about "154-168" because now I have to hear critics repeat that for the next 154-168 years.

All I ask is that people try to be objective. Why do we criticize Golovkin for not moving up 8 lbs. to fight Ward and Froch yet give Canelo a pass for initially not moving up 5 lbs. to fight Golovkin at 160? If one is a problem then the other should be a problem too.

I don't expect to change you or anyone else's mind. I'm just on here to talk boxing and hopefully learn a thing or two from someone else's perspective.