why is GGG only allowed Hypothetical matchups with Chavez Jr. or Froch?

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  • emceetns
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    #21
    Originally posted by Chollo Vista
    Well research it and you tell me. Let's compare Canelo and G's resumes and then compare the odds in those fights and see how it turns out.

    I did the first half, you do the 2nd half. What do you say?
    I'm up for that, I will see what I can find

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    • Chollo Vista
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      #22
      Originally posted by emceetns
      I'm up for that, I will see what I can find
      Cool

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      • Zaroku
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        #23
        Originally posted by Young Bidness
        mention any name or scenario above 160 and it's never acceptable, but mention Froch or Chavez Jr. and that's as good as it gets?

        everybody else who is not GGG gets criticized...
        I got Frisch ****ing GGG up!

        I got Cinnabon stopping dux faced dude within the distance

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        • emceetns
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          #24
          Originally posted by Chollo Vista
          Canelo was a 4 to 1 favorite over Kov. Let's be clear.

          Based off YOUR OWN logic, GGG's career and legacy is garbage:

          Golovkin Resume
          - Proksa - #4
          - Rosado - unranked
          - Stevens - unranked
          - Geale - #3
          - Osumanu - unranked
          - Rubio - #8
          - Murray - #6
          - Monroe - unranked
          - Lemieux - #4
          - Wade - unranked
          - Brook - unranked MW
          - Jacobs - #2
          - Vanes - unranked
          - Rolls - unranked
          - Derv - #7

          Golovkin Odds History:

          Ouma - 14 to 1
          Simon - 25 to 1
          Proksa - 4 to 1
          Rosado - 34 to 1
          Ishida - 50 to 1
          Macklin - 12 to 1
          Stevens - 15 to 1
          Adama - 9 to 1
          Geale - 7 to 1
          Rubio 20 to 1
          Murray - 20 to 1
          Monroe Jr - 25 to 1
          Lemieux - 13 to 1
          Wade - 70 to 1
          Brook - 7.5 to 1
          Jacobs - 4.8 to 1
          Canelo - 1.8 to 1
          Vanes - 25 to 1
          Rolls - 50 to 1
          Canelo - 1.9 to 1
          Szeemeta - 41-1

          That's 1 weight class, 4 top 5 victories after a 14 year pro career while being the overwhelmingly favorite in over 95% of his fights at 38 years old.

          This is garbage, but let's watch you tap dance and justify it.
          You did your part and here is mine, as promised

          Golovkin Odds History vs. Canelo Odds History

          Ouma - 14 to 1 __ Baldomir 17 to 1
          Simon - 25 to 1 __ N'Dou 20 to 1
          Proksa - 4 to 1 __ Hatton 15 to 1
          Rosado - 34 to 1 __ Rhodes 9 to 1
          Ishida - 50 to 1 __ Gomez 22 to 1
          Macklin - 12 to 1 __ Cintron 12 to 1
          Stevens - 15 to 1 __ Mosley 6 to 1
          Adama - 9 to 1 __ Lopez 22 to 1
          Geale - 7 to 1 __ Trout 2 to 1
          Rubio 20 to 1 __ *Mayweather 2 to 1 underdog*
          Murray - 20 to 1 __ Angulo 7 to 1
          Monroe Jr - 25 to 1 __ Lara 3 to 1
          Lemieux - 13 to 1 __ Kirkland 9 to 1
          Wade - 70 to 1 __ Cotto 3 to 1
          Brook - 7.5 to 1 __ Khan 7 to 1
          Jacobs - 4.8 to 1 __ Smith 14 to 1
          Canelo - 1.8 to 1 __ Chavez Jr. 4 to 1
          Vanes - 25 to 1 __ *Golovkin 1.5 to 1 underdog*
          Rolls - 50 to 1 __ Cuello 12 to 1
          Canelo - 1.9 to 1 __ *Golovkin 1.5 to 1 underdog*
          Szeemeta - 41-1

          Ok, here is what I found and there were slightly different odds listed for Canelo's two fights with GGG but I digress.

          Golovkin No-hopers (20-1 or more): 10
          Canelo No-hopers (20-1 or more): 3

          Just to be thorough, here is the count if we say no-hopers are 10-1 or more:

          Golovkin No-hopers (10-1 or more): 14
          Canelo No-hopers (10-1 or more): 7

          It's hard to draw an exact line for no-hoper, so if we include 9-1 then the final count is:

          Golovkin: 15
          Canelo: 9

          I pride myself on being objective so in this case I have to acknowledge that Golovkin has fought more no-hopers than Canelo, however I think this exercise proves that every top guy has their share of tune-ups who aren't expected to win anyway.

          I'm gonna check out odds for guys like Bernard Hopkins and Sergio Martinez to see how their "no-hoper" numbers look.

          This was fun though.

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          • kidbazooka
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            #25
            Originally posted by Mr. 29K
            Because we’re dealing with low IQ people from Kawktarzan. They really don’t know shyt about boxing. They only know goat milk, Borrat, and Triple Flop.
            Hahahahahahahaha

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