Comments Thread For: The Quarantine Debates: Carving Out Boxing's Mount Rushmore

[Larry the boss]

John L Sullivan, Ali, SRR,Mayweather

[johnbook]

Promoter: Anyone but Don King. Didn't pay many boxers including Ali. Pure evil, corrupt killer.

Won't be reading this guy again.

[The D3vil]

Come on man, this is easy.

Jack Johnson
Jack Dempsy
Muhammadi Ali
Joe Louis

Yeah, they're all heavyweights, so fxckin' what.

They're the 4 most important guys ever in the sport

[Dempsey19]

Come on man, this is easy.

Jack Johnson
Jack Dempsy
Muhammadi Ali
Joe Louis

Yeah, they're all heavyweights, so fxckin' what.

They're the 4 most important guys ever in the sport

That is a very good list.

[Dempsey19]

But the more I think about it I don’t think a Mount Rushmore can be made. 4 is just too little to choose from.

[landotter]

I love this thought... But outside of the Olympics, there is no sport that would be harder to do this in. The four greatest? Even from 1977 on, there are so many all time greats in so many divisions against such different eras picking four is like a picking a last meal before dying... no matter what I say now, in 15 minutes I will have a taste for something else.

I love these lists, but there is no way I could make an argument that someone couldn't come back with a different set of logic to which I would not agree with. Therefore, I cede my opinion to smarter boxing historians than me.

[Monty Fisto]

I fundamentally disagree with the premise that a "promoter" deserves as much credit as the fighters, who put their lives on the line every time they step in the ring

Didn't Don King rip off a lot of boxers? We TOLERATE promoters, we don't CELEBRATE them

Read what I wrote again. I talked about a man with no principals who is willing to renege on a contract.

Mount Rushmore is in lands that were given to the Sioux Indians in a treaty in 1868. This was a treaty between the Sioux and the US government: a contract, that agreed the lands belonged to the Sioux.

Then, the US government took back the Black Hills when they discovered they had inadvertently given away lands that were rich with gold. Years later there was a project to dynamite out the faces of four Presidents on Mount Rushmore. The project ran out of money and the sculpture was never finished as originally intended.

The discussion is meant figuratively. I was being somewhat facetious and treating it literally, as if you were going for a Mount Rushmore redo with a sculptor who was looking for boxing to drive the project.

[HeadBodyBodyBody]

Read what I wrote again. I talked about a man with no principals who is willing to renege on a contract.

Mount Rushmore is in lands that were given to the Sioux Indians in a treaty in 1868. This was a treaty between the Sioux and the US government: a contract, that agreed the lands belonged to the Sioux.

Then, the US government took back the Black Hills when they discovered they had inadvertently given away lands that were rich with gold. Years later there was a project to dynamite out the faces of four Presidents on Mount Rushmore. The project ran out of money and the sculpture was never finished as originally intended.

The discussion is meant figuratively. I was being somewhat facetious and treating it literally, as if you were going for a Mount Rushmore redo with a sculptor who was looking for boxing to drive the project.

Yeah I get it, it's apt, arseholes for arseholes. I just fundamentally disagree with the premise that a promoter ought to be placed amongst any possible pantheon of boxing greats. Two fighters, a promoter, and a trainer... Why not make a slot for a ring card girl too while we're at it? The idea sucks. But OK, in the slimy world of greedy capitalist weasel-scum promoters, Don King takes the cake, so sure, give him a crown of turds and be done with it. Worst of the worst.

[DeeMoney]

Dang, if i told you I was making boxings mount rushmore from the mid 70s on, but none of the 4 kings, nor mayweather, pac, or anyone who defended heavyweight title in that span would make it- youd call me some kind of names

[DeeMoney]

I believe he stated, from ‘1977 to the present’.