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  • #31
    Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
    For me, it's different watching a fighter rise to the top live than it is looking back before you were born and assessing fighters through archived footage.

    My initial take is this. Mike Tyson was an unbeatable monster in his prime. After witnessing his destruction of Spinks first hand, I really realized this.

    In the 90's, when I finally got a hold of old footage of Frazier, I really didn't see how he compared to Mike. He was smaller, slower and less powerful... And I thought Mike had a better chin.

    When I take that into consideration, I see a lot of mistakes Big George would make. He would punch wide winging shots with both hands down. To me, I would see Prime Mike, simply catching and shooting and catching George flush on the chin, time after time.

    I don't know how many flush shots Big George can take, but i do know Ron Lyle had him down and out several times in the fight.

    For me, Tyson would take it. He was a bigger, stronger, faster and more powerful version of Frazier.

    Head to head, I even think Prime Mike would've beat Ali... Why not? Frazier did it.

    I know that same logic can be applied to Tyson vs Douglass, but I don't think Tyson would be sleeping with Japanese women or a bunch of women in general before the biggest fight of his life like he did against Douglass
    Great assessment. That's why you are the resident champ! You broke it down well. Much respect!

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
      Foreman was dropped by Haye in the Quarter finals.... Tyson beat a weak Buttetbean, but I still have Mike as the favorite
      What the hell kind of ****** tournament is this????? Butterbean was just a freak show not a world champion or even a top 50 contender. he fought mostly 4 round fights because he was too fat to go 12 rounds or even 8 rounds. He hit hard but has zero place in a heavyweight best tournament. A prime Foreman slaughters Haye and KOs Tyson in my opinion.. Remember what he did to Frazier.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by travestyny View Post
        Great assessment. That's why you are the resident champ! You broke it down well. Much respect!
        Thanks brother

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        • #34
          Originally posted by boliodogs View Post
          What the hell kind of ****** tournament is this?????.
          In case you haven't realized, there's a worldwide pandemic forcing people to quarantine and stay home.

          This is a fun tournament that I'm enjoying.

          I hope they do another tourney like this with the following participants:

          1. Robinson
          8. De La Hoya

          2. Leonard
          7. B. Ross

          3. Mayweather
          6. Hearns

          4. Pacquiao
          5. P. Whitaker

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
            For me, it's different watching a fighter rise to the top live than it is looking back before you were born and assessing fighters through archived footage.
            So true, it's impossible to capture all of the context looking back. It's still a fun and worthy venture though - tons of great fights and fighters...you can really start to understand styles and stuff like that in the general sense

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            • #36
              Originally posted by LA_2_Vegas View Post
              So true, it's impossible to capture all of the context looking back. It's still a fun and worthy venture though - tons of great fights and fighters...you can really start to understand styles and stuff like that in the general sense
              Exactly, very hard to capture context and atmospherics during the time you weren't around for.

              Also, when you watch a fighter grow in real-time, it can give you an assessment of how big of a challenge his opponent was "at the time", which can give you an idea on if said fighter is capable of overcoming the present challenge regardless of how big it may be. Or in other words, fighting to the level of the occasion.

              You can't really get that while watching archived footage that happened before you were born.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by sparda77 View Post
                What is this guy smoking? Lmao. Foreman would've beaten Tyson. Even the second version. Tyson's style was perfect for Big George. Remember what happened to Joe Frazier? And Frazier would have beaten Tyson at his own game. Man, those heavyweights back then were tough. I think any of those would have beaten Tyson. You got Norton, Shavers, Foreman, Frazier, oh lawd.
                I see it that way too. Prime Foreman beats prime Tyson. Let's not overlook that Foreman was an Olympic champion too but a massive factor would be that prime Tyson relied heavily on intimidation and no way would he have intimidated prime Foreman, who was a bigger badder version of anything Tyson had ever been. Big George would have eaten up Iron Mike in the same way he ate Frazier and Norton.

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                • #38
                  Smh at the people really caring about these fake fights!!!

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                  • #39
                    I dont think the simulator is realistic enough.

                    Maybe Tyson would have won in real life, maybe he would have lost...but no way do I see him being able to knock George Foreman out in 4 rounds.

                    Foreman was only stopped once in 81 fights. And that was out of sheer exhaustion more than anything else.

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                    • #40
                      Game Tournament is fun.

                      That is a unexpected upset here. Mike Tyson vs Ali next.

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