Watching Usyk fights, and no way he wins a title at HW

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  • Nash out
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    #21
    Originally posted by Boxing Goat
    This is probably the most stacked CW division there has ever been.

    Very naïve statement
    Stacked full of decent fighters, yes. But hardly anyone good/great ones. None of them would be a top 20 HW, and many of them are big enough to be HW.

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    • glenn mcrory
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      #22
      Originally posted by larryx...
      Why do you say this?? serious question??

      1-He isnt fast

      2-Doesnt have ko power

      3-Isnt hard to hit

      4-Covers up and does not counter when attacked most of the time


      I swear I like the guy, let me know what I am missing here
      People are simple. They like simple stuff.
      Things are more complicated.
      THese guys are too casual, they dont know what theyre actually watching.

      Moves does not equal footwork
      hands up does not equal defense
      Hasnt been koed yet does not equal durable
      lots of pointless twitchy stuff does not equal good reflexes
      jabs and has boxer style does not equal mobile and high ring iq

      Most of his fans are his fans because of a reason that sadly has nothing to do with boxing.

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      • Slicedbread
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        #23
        Originally posted by larryx...
        He is really flat footed and is not even a fighter who throw A lot of shots, He is no defensive god and isnt really fast... He will have to change his entire style
        He thoroughly defeated Michael hunter who just drew with Povetkin at HW. I know styles make fights and you can't necessarily extrapolate success therefrom, but I think it's an indication he has the capability to be successful at HW.

        He does a lot of subtle things like distance management that casuals can't really detect or understand

        His body positioning, dexterity, and balance enable him to always be in position offensively or defensively. Which he transitions between both very well.

        I think size-wise, he is fine at around 6'3" 225ish.

        I definitely don't see him out boxing Fury who is currently the man at HW.. But I'd give him 50/50 chance to win one of the titles in the next 3 years or so against a Joshua, Wilder, Whyte or Ruiz.

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        • Larry the boss
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          #24
          Originally posted by Boxing Goat
          Compared to who?

          I stopped reading and taking this seriously right there.
          I made my thread and stand behind it, now lets see what happens after this thread...........

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          • dibzvincent143
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            #25
            I’d like to him get windmilled, and i don’t even like wilder.

            Usyk acts like he’s the total darkhorse and everyone in the top 3 is in for some punishment. I say let’s get it on.

            I’d be rooting to any of the top 5 to beat him. Personally i hope he fights wilder first so we in for some bronzebum highlights.

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            • Larry the boss
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              #26
              Originally posted by Slicedbread
              He thoroughly defeated Michael hunter who just drew with Povetkin at HW. I know styles make fights and you can't necessarily extrapolate success therefrom, but I think it's an indication he has the capability to be successful at HW.

              He does a lot of subtle things like distance management that casuals can't really detect or understand

              His body positioning, dexterity, and balance enable him to always be in position offensively or defensively. Which he transitions between both very well.

              I think size-wise, he is fine at around 6'3" 225ish.

              I definitely don't see him out boxing Fury who is currently the man at HW.. But I'd give him 50/50 chance to win one of the titles in the next 3 years or so against a Joshua, Wilder, Whyte or Ruiz.
              Povetkin is 40 years old man and has never been an elite HW...

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              • Citizen Koba
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                #27
                Originally posted by larryx...
                I made my thread and stand behind it, now lets see what happens after this thread...........
                Can't fault that, I say props to the guy for trying at least... there's probably not a bigger leap in all of the sport and few make it successfully.

                Best of luck to the guy - I'm thinking Delboi should have given us a pretty good idea what kinda shot he's got if any... but now I guess we gotta wait out this COVID ish... on which note I hope you and yours stay safe over the coming weeks, Larry. Looks like it's gonna be a rough ride coming.

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                • BaguMka
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                  #28
                  Usyk will be a champ in HW. Mark my words. I'll bookmark this thread and come back to embarrass these "experts" in boxing

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                  • Earl-Hickey
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                    #29
                    His style is good Vs guys his own size it won't be Vs guys 40lb naturally bigger

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                    • Long jabber
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                      #30
                      Only seen his fight against bellew. He looked pretty average

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