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  • SplitSecond
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    #21
    Originally posted by Idunnoshet
    I doubt Crawford / Spence does better PPV numbers than Fury / Wilder 2 or even the first fight.
    Aside from hardcore boxing fans I don't think there's enough casuals interested in this fight to make it financially successful.

    I do find it strange that Crawford's talking about money now.
    IMO Arum has Brook in line next. Then the winner or Ramirez / Taylor.
    Spence-Porter did as much or more than Wilder-Fury I already. You think Porter brings more hype or has a bigger following than Crawford? He doesn’t. I have little doubt Spence-Crawford can’t easily beat Wilder-Fury II.

    It’s not so much the single fighters but the matchup. Ala Golovkin-Canelo. While fanbois were crying that it wasn’t worth it, Golovkin doesn’t bring enough numbers, look at his past PPV’s etc. I was certain it would hit atleast a mil. All you need to take into account is the hype around a fighter and how far out into the public they are. Crawford is touted as top pfp’er(they will push him at pfp #1). Spence is the supposed best 147lb’er. Both have a following, both are well assocciated with names like Pacquiao, and Mayweather (in Spence’s case), Spence’s car crash has gotten him more light too etc etc.

    Crawford is known. He got a lot of light from beating Horns ass. He just needs a known/hyped opponent.
    Last edited by SplitSecond; 03-11-2020, 10:09 AM.

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    • Combat Talk Radio
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      #22
      Originally posted by NachoMan
      I'm a TC fan, but sometimes Bud really makes it sound like he's okay with letting his career go down the tubes. It's not his style, bu at 32 yrs old, he should be out every day calling out the elite fighters anywhere near his weight. I believe that he's a generational talent, but it seems like he may never actually prove it in the ring.
      You heard him. Clear as day. Hopefully now you understand. Hopefully you ALL understand.

      At one point Crawford said:

      "I WANT ALL THE FIGHTERS AT 147!!! THEY WON'T FIGHT ME!! AIN'T NOTHING I CAN DO!!!"

      Now it's:

      "Of course I want to fight all of the guys, but it’s a business."

      Which means he's pricing himself out of the fights. Which means he COULD have fought all of them by now if he were realistic about the money to build a legacy and he's deluded about his standing in the business.

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      • Idunnoshet
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        #23
        Originally posted by SplitSecond
        Spence-Porter did as much or more than Wilder-Fury I already. You think Porter brings more hype or has a bigger following than Crawford? He doesn’t. I have little doubt Spence-Crawford can’t easily beat Wilder-Fury II.

        It’s not so much the single fighters but the matchup. Ala Golovkin-Canelo. While fanbois were crying that it wasn’t worth it, Golovkin doesn’t bring enough numbers, look at his past PPV’s etc. I was certain it would hit atleast a mil. All you need to take into account is the hype around a fighter and how far out into the public they are. Crawford is touted as top pfp’er(they will push him at pfp #1). Spence is the supposed best 147lb’er. Both have a following, both are well assocciated with names like Pacquiao, and Mayweather (in Spence’s case), Spence’s car crash has gotten him more light too etc etc.

        Crawford is known. He got a lot of light from beating Horns ass. He just needs a known/hyped opponent.
        I get where you're coming from.
        The thing with me is I don't hear the Casuals asking for this fight.

        In my circle I'm the guy my buddies / co workers will ask " who's this fighter ? Or when are these guys gonna fight " ?
        I'm just not hearing that for Spence / Crawford.
        Maybe it's just my circle and it Will be a financial success.
        IMO I doubt it.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Idunnoshet
          I get where you're coming from.
          The thing with me is I don't hear the Casuals asking for this fight.

          In my circle I'm the guy my buddies / co workers will ask " who's this fighter ? Or when are these guys gonna fight " ?
          I'm just not hearing that for Spence / Crawford.
          Maybe it's just my circle and it Will be a financial success.
          IMO I doubt it.
          Without the ESPN push, lets say just PBC like Spence-Porter, it already does more than Wilder-Fury I. Spence needs a tune-up for sure. But when the fight gets made talk and hype will start rolling. Saying the money isn’t there is a bad excuse. Crawford is just being nice here. Everytime he goes on a rant, he comes back trying to be nice and understanding.

          Anyway, we’ll agree to disagree respectfully.
          Last edited by SplitSecond; 03-11-2020, 10:43 AM.

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            #25
            I believe Bob is protecting Crawford he's still not interested in making the Pacquiao fight. Also Crawford knew from the beginning top rank didn't have any other top WW's when he re-signed. Now it's all about the money. We all know at this point that the fight can be made. They just need to fight and get it over with because Crawford's opponents suck. Spence and Crawford now is as big now as it's ever
            gonna be. and Arum is talking about putting Crawford in with Ramirez, Taylor and Prograis smh that's dumb
            Last edited by AdonisCreed; 03-11-2020, 10:43 AM.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Clegg
              Due to the crash it was clear the fight wouldn't happen soon, but the financials are another issue because Spence seemed to have a plan to build his star power first, and will likely want an easy comeback fight, then a bigger fight against a name opponent and if that sells well, make Crawford an offer. Not sure what Crawford plans in the meantime, any legit info on who either of them face next?
              I saw on bad left hook Arum was thinking of putting Crawford in with Jose Ramirez, Josh Taylor or Regis Prograis. Arum said he cares about Pacquiao too much to feed him to Crawford.

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                #27
                Crawford, this doesn't sound like someone who many and himself consider as the best of 147. If you have enough confidence in yourself you take the for less many, beast the other top dog to prove that you are the best. Meanwhile your value will raise significantly.

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                • Detroit29
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                  #28
                  Crawford would get slammed by a lot of haters for speaking the business side of boxing. He understands the economics of the sport and it sounds like he wants everyone involved to get paid. He knows its not just getting in the ring and fighting. He openly admitted that TR does, like PBC does in house fights. And he said it's smart. Big ups to Crawford for saying this.

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                  • TonyPeri
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                    #29
                    It’s not that fans don’t understand biz end, we don’t care. We’re not getting a piece of the profits or downside. You’re asking the public to pay their hard earned cash for a ticket or ppv so we’re not paying unless the best fight the best. Bud is my current favorite fighter but there’s no way I’m paying for another bum of the month club when the real fights are out there. The fans have the financial power to demand the fights and boycott the bull****

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by SplitSecond
                      Without the ESPN push, lets say just PBC like Spence-Porter, it already does more than Wilder-Fury I. Spence needs a tune-up for sure. But when the fight gets made talk and hype will start rolling. Saying the money isn’t there is a bad excuse. Crawford is just being nice here. Everytime he goes on a rant, he comes back trying to be nice and understanding.

                      Anyway, we’ll agree to disagree respectfully.
                      Cool.
                      I hope one of us is proven right and the fight actually gets made.
                      That's what matters.

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