Will Joe Joyce have overtaken ortiz already if/when he beats dubois?

[Madison Boxing]

Even if Joyce were to win, you have quite an imagination stating that it would be a one sided win.

Please explain, like in breaking it down terms - how you arrive at that conclusion?

There is no scenario in which Joyce lopsidedly wins against Dubois.

How would that happen? Would he use dazzling handspeed and foot movement? How does he avoid being hit?

NOT. A. CHANCE.

He may win (but my money is on the kid), but if he does win lopsidedly I will bring my apology A game right back here and tip my cap to you. I'd still like to hear how you see that happening.

Dubois is just a young kid with a big punch. Joyce is hugely experienced and successful as an amateur and has beaten better fighters as a pro and is a level above the likes of dubois. I think he will just walk in, pressure dubois and bully the kid. Dubois has never had any sort of adversity and will probably fold when someone puts it on him and his big punch doesn't land, just like wilder in last fight. And guy who's sparred with both has Joyce stopping him in 5 rounds.

[15 Rounds again]

He is already waaaaay past Ortiz and the winner of Joyce Dubous will surpass Wilder.

Wilder is a piece of chit who believed all the yes men and hype they created to make money off of him.

They edit commentary lol. They pay shill commentators. They had the guy duck loads of fights.

Complete joke and the WBC went along with this phoney crap.

[mlac]

I like Joyce, he's a top lad, but it's better for British boxing if Dubois wins.

Joyce is ****. He is so unbelievably slow. Will be target practise for dubois. He will detonate bomb after bomb on this big stiff idiot.

The TS has a track record of hyping bums, he doesnt have a clue what hes watching, so i think its a lump job on dubois

[dan_cov]

Its a big if I think Dubios splatters Joyce.

Dubios isn't some little HW he can just overwhelm and get away with fighting like a mong against like the others Joyce has feasted on.

I wouldn't be surprised if Dubios knocked him senseless inside the first 30 seconds with how reckless Joyce is using his face as a shield.

[MulaKO]

I like Joyce, he's a top lad, but it's better for British boxing if Dubois wins.

Can’t argue with this ^^^^^^

[Froch_uppercut]

Dubois is just a young kid with a big punch. Joyce is hugely experienced and successful as an amateur and has beaten better fighters as a pro and is a level above the likes of dubois. I think he will just walk in, pressure dubois and bully the kid. Dubois has never had any sort of adversity and will probably fold when someone puts it on him and his big punch doesn't land, just like wilder in last fight. And guy who's sparred with both has Joyce stopping him in 5 rounds.

To dismiss Dubois as just a young kid with a big punch is a bit frivolous.
He is more than that. Any case, it is one for the fans - both taking a big challenge at a cruicial time in their career paths, kudos to both, we need more of this. We also need fans to not totally dismiss a guy if he has an L, like one of them surely will after this. Loser could fight Kownaki.

[boliodogs]

Yes if Joyce wins in good style he would be ahead of Ortiz for me anyway.I think he is a better fighter than Ortiz. Joyce is not that hard to hit but he seems to have an iron jaw and takes hard punches as if they were nothing. Ortiz has been stopped twice by Wilder so I think that counts against Ortiz. Joyce hits hard with both hands and has a good jab and he is very tough. He just keeps marching forward throwing lots of hard punches. Dubois is probably going to blast him with some bombs so the fight is a good test for Joyce's chin and I think he will pass the test and win. Joyce is never going to be a real good boxer but he could be a great brawler.

[LetOutTheCage]

Dubois will stop Joyce late, far to technicall, young and strong for Joyce to walk through him

[TMLT87]

Yes. Ortiz lives off of "well he looks good" and "hes the boogeyman", his actual resume is thin for a 40 (at least) year old in the twilight of his career.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Joyces best 3 wins would be daniel dubois, Bryant jennings, bermaine stiverne versus Ortiz best 3 wins- Bryant jennings, dave Allen, malik Scott.

Dave Allen😂😂 You’re a clown...