Will Joe Joyce have overtaken ortiz already if/when he beats dubois?

[Madison Boxing]

Joyces best 3 wins would be daniel dubois, Bryant jennings, bermaine stiverne versus Ortiz best 3 wins- Bryant jennings, dave Allen, malik Scott.

[Articulateboxin]

It's a point well made actually. Admittedly, Jennings has likely declined somewhat since his Ortiz bout, however i'd still fancy Joyce to outwork Ortiz and general consensus is that Dubios beats Joyce. Really puts Ortiz's career in perspective

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Joyces best 3 wins would be daniel dubois, Bryant jennings, bermaine stiverne versus Ortiz best 3 wins- Bryant jennings, dave Allen, malik Scott.

Who you got for Dubois-Joyce?

[Madison Boxing]

Who you got for Dubois-Joyce?

Joyce stops him in a one sided fight. How about u?

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Joyce stops him in a one sided fight. How about u?

Interesting pick. I think Daniel uses him as a heavy bag and wins an easy decision.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Cool point, fellow. The answer is yes.

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I think Ortiz has the poorest resume at heavyweight ,out of 20 something fights it’s actually terrible counting wins only.

Joyce will have a decent resume and I think the Jennings he fought was more seasoned then the one Ortiz faced but that’s neither here or there . If Joyce is on point he’ll defeat DDD ,I think both stop Ortiz.

[Froch_uppercut]

Joyce stops him in a one sided fight. How about u?

Even if Joyce were to win, you have quite an imagination stating that it would be a one sided win.

Please explain, like in breaking it down terms - how you arrive at that conclusion?

There is no scenario in which Joyce lopsidedly wins against Dubois.

How would that happen? Would he use dazzling handspeed and foot movement? How does he avoid being hit?

NOT. A. CHANCE.

He may win (but my money is on the kid), but if he does win lopsidedly I will bring my apology A game right back here and tip my cap to you. I'd still like to hear how you see that happening.

[pittapatta66]

arguably yes. joyce is relentless, a cardio machine and dubois is the best hw prospect PERIOD (imo).

pulling for joyce because hes the nicest guy in boxing, one of the only boxers id actually buy merch from and if dubois loses he is so young it wont matter, it will be an experience in life for him.

man you brits are so lucky, if it werent for the fact that the uk has gone down the shytter these last few decades id move there just for the boxing. boxing and mma are the only sports/entertainment i watch

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arguably yes. joyce is relentless, a cardio machine and dubois is the best hw prospect PERIOD (imo).

pulling for joyce because hes the nicest guy in boxing, one of the only boxers id actually buy merch from and if dubois loses he is so young it wont matter, it will be an experience in life for him.

man you brits are so lucky, if it werent for the fact that the uk has gone down the shytter these last few decades id move there just for the boxing. boxing and mma are the only sports/entertainment i watch

I like Joyce, he's a top lad, but it's better for British boxing if Dubois wins.