Whitaker vs Lomachenlo @135 - who u got?

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  • Boxing Goat
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    #21
    Originally posted by Goldie
    Loma is an atg based on what? Wins over Walters, Russell jr and Rigo? Lol
    Actually, yes, that's a part of it. He's the only guy to beat any of them in case you didn't know.

    He's also an ATG seeing as how he has won belts in 3 divisions in the least amount of fights, ever.

    Can you name any other fighter in history with 14 title fights in 15 career fights?

    You can't because there isn't a another.

    Get the knack
    Last edited by Boxing Goat; 03-09-2020, 04:06 PM.

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    • Goldie
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      #22
      Originally posted by Boxing Goat
      Actually, yes, that's a part of it. He's the only guy to beat any of them in case you didn't know.
      He’s bigger than all of them. Rigo was 37 and had to go up 2 divisions. I like Russell jr but he’s not an atg. Name a great fighter outside of loma on his record. Walters basically retired during the fight. None of those wins make loma an atg.

      Originally posted by Boxing Goat
      He's also an ATG seeing as how he has won belts in 3 divisions in the least amount of fights, ever.

      Can you name any other fighter in history with 14 title fights in 15 career fights?

      You can't because there isn't a another.

      Get the knack
      This is even weaker. The fact that Loma even got all of these title shots immediately at the start of his career is a testament to how he’s been privileged. A non privileged fighter would’ve never got the same opportunities. I don’t care about belts, it’s about who you’ve beaten and how long you’ve sustained greatness when talking about being an atg. Dude has 15 fights and those names on his 14 win list aren’t all that impressive. No, he hasn’t proven himself to be an atg. Y’all wishing and hoping.

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        #23
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        Originally posted by Goldie
        He’s bigger than all of them. Rigo was 37 and had to go up 2 divisions. I like Russell jr but he’s not an atg. Name a great fighter outside of loma on his record. Walters basically retired during the fight. None of those wins make loma an atg.

        This is even weaker. The fact that Loma even got all of these title shots immediately at the start of his career is a testament to how he’s been privileged. A non privileged fighter would’ve never got the same opportunities. I don’t care about belts, it’s about who you’ve beaten and how long you’ve sustained greatness when talking about being an atg. Dude has 15 fights and those names on his 14 win list aren’t all that impressive. No, he hasn’t proven himself to be an atg. Y’all wishing and hoping.
        - -U still soiling U shorts over Loma?

        The EPA cited U yet?

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        • Madison Boxing
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          #24
          Originally posted by Goldie
          He’s bigger than all of them. Rigo was 37 and had to go up 2 divisions. I like Russell jr but he’s not an atg. Name a great fighter outside of loma on his record. Walters basically retired during the fight. None of those wins make loma an atg.

          This is even weaker. The fact that Loma even got all of these title shots immediately at the start of his career is a testament to how he’s been privileged. A non privileged fighter would’ve never got the same opportunities. I don’t care about belts, it’s about who you’ve beaten and how long you’ve sustained greatness when talking about being an atg. Dude has 15 fights and those names on his 14 win list aren’t all that impressive. No, he hasn’t proven himself to be an atg. Y’all wishing and hoping.
          All them fighters were rated highly and given a good shot to beat him before hand. Same as people are with Lopez. But when Loma beats them you all say his opponents are weak I think it's hilarious reading the comments about how Lopez will beat him cause them same posters won't give him the slightest bit of credit when Loma schools him like the others

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            #25
            Originally posted by Madison boxing
            All them fighters were rated highly and given a good shot to beat him before hand. Same as people are with Lopez. But when Loma beats them you all say his opponents are weak I think it's hilarious reading the comments about how Lopez will beat him cause them same posters won't give him the slightest bit of credit when Loma schools him like the others
            Why are you quoting me to be passive aggressive about other posters and what they’re saying?

            The fact is that he was a favorite against all of those and he’ll be a favorite against Lopez. Using certain people to spin Loma’s wins to being more impressive than what they actually are proves my point.

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              #26
              Whitaker beat the best 135lber of the past 40 years in Julio Cesar Chavez (Fxck the decision).

              He'd box a ring around Loma & I got Loma as a p4p level fighter, but I'm taking Whitaker over virtually anyone who ever lived at 135 other than maybe Duran or Ike Williams somebody who's so aggressive and animalistic.

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              • Boxing Goat
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                #27
                Originally posted by Goldie
                He’s bigger than all of them. Rigo was 37 and had to go up 2 divisions. I like Russell jr but he’s not an atg. Name a great fighter outside of loma on his record. Walters basically retired during the fight. None of those wins make loma an atg.

                This is even weaker. The fact that Loma even got all of these title shots immediately at the start of his career is a testament to how he’s been privileged. A non privileged fighter would’ve never got the same opportunities. I don’t care about belts, it’s about who you’ve beaten and how long you’ve sustained greatness when talking about being an atg. Dude has 15 fights and those names on his 14 win list aren’t all that impressive. No, he hasn’t proven himself to be an atg. Y’all wishing and hoping.
                You've just got your dksab hater shades on. He's been p4p#1 for years now for a fkn reason ya dope
                Last edited by Boxing Goat; 03-10-2020, 12:32 AM.

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                  #28
                  Tough to call. Whitaker never fought anyone with Loma’s skill set at 135. Most of his best wins were straight forward plodders. He was brilliant against aggressive brawlers and punchers, but he never saw anything on the level of Loma’s speed, footwork, countering, and ring intelligence. At the same time, Loma hasn’t fought anyone on Whitaker’s level at 135 either. A master at defense and countering and a chin that isn’t going anywhere. This one goes the distance, it’s anyone’s fight.

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                  • QueensburyRules
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Goldie
                    Why are you quoting me to be passive aggressive about other posters and what they’re saying?

                    The fact is that he was a favorite against all of those and he’ll be a favorite against Lopez. Using certain people to spin Loma’s wins to being more impressive than what they actually are proves my point.
                    - -U gotta point on U pinhaid?

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                      #30
                      Loma by decision.

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