How do you SKIP Random testing for a week? Explain this to me

[Thuglife Nelo]

FWIW though I ain't seen anyone else even acknowledge or question this elimation rate issue anywhere so maybe it's of no significance at all... I honestly don't know, I just noticed it and wondered what the explanation might be.

Again, WADA revised the Clen rule to GIVE a threshold for meat contamination cases. The molecular testing has to be consistent with meat contamination. In fact the problem is that you still don’t understand that WADA knows the decay of Clen (pill) decay metabolize vs Meat contamination. In fact you continue to not acknowledge SMRTL’s Director to say it was meat contamination, the range. What was the threshold for WADA’s revision in 2019, 2000 picos right? What was Vargas’ sample? 1200 picos. Canelo’s? 600 picos. Thing is you just conclude a number and assume that’s how WADA research concludes.. that’s a very immature way to view it..

VADA knew all that. The WBC and Mexican boxing have known about these instances. Most Mexican boxers aren’t/weren’t enrolled in VADA testing, just general testing done in Mexico who knows what those standards are.

[Citizen Koba]

Again, WADA revised the Clen rule to GIVE a threshold for meat contamination cases. The molecular testing has to be consistent with meat contamination. In fact the problem is that you still don’t understand that WADA knows the decay of Clen (pill) decay metabolize vs Meat contamination. In fact you continue to not acknowledge SMRTL’s Director to say it was meat contamination, the range. What was the threshold for WADA’s revision in 2019, 2000 picos right? What was Vargas’ sample? 1200 picos. Canelo’s? 600 picos. Thing is you just conclude a number and assume that’s how WADA research concludes.. that’s a very immature way to view it..

VADA knew all that. The WBC and Mexican boxing have known about these instances. Most Mexican boxers aren’t/weren’t enrolled in VADA testing, just general testing done in Mexico who knows what those standards are.

I know you're just making **** up and you know you're just making **** up. Simple fact is WADA still acknowledge they have no discriminatory test, and if they did they wouldn't have needed to raise the threshold would they? Because they would know for sure one way or another whether a dude had eaten contaminated meat or not. Think about it. The increased threshold is simply a pragmatic acknowledgement of the need to shift the burden of proof due to impossibility of proving guilt, what it absolutely isn't is a proof of innocence of intent. Oh and whilst we're about it you probably want to recheck the meaning of the phrase 'consistent with'.

Molecular testing? What does that even mean? They use GC-MS. Perhaps that's what you meant by 'molecular testing'?
Decay of clen from meat vs decay of clen from pills? Well that's exactly the point isn't it? They just can't tell, cos unlike many other drugs Clen has no distinct measurable metabolytes which is how they usually make such distinctions for other drugs (comparing the parent to metbolyte concentrations can often give you a rough timestamp on adminstration) This is the only reason we're even having this discussion.... Please feel free to link me to the appropriate research paper if you believe I'm wrong however. I'm always willing to expand my knowledge.

[_Rexy_]

Oh is this another thread about how cheater Canelo failed two PED tests?


Must have ****** when Ring removed him from their rankings, even though they were owned by Golden Boy.

[R_Walken]

Stopped reading here. Your comprehension on WADA is slow. The WBC didn’t “increase” anything nor make the ruling from WADA. VADA HAS TO COMPLY WITH WADA since that what the WBC CBP is based off of, the rules from the banned list.

Don’t care that you didn’t read , the only man that might lust for Canelo more then Sauliman, To me it seems like you’re just making sh.it up about the man you see as competition

Obviously I don’t know sh.it about PEDs and the testing agencies but you thinking the man you’re competing against for Canelos affection ( News Flash Dummy Canelos straight )

Would setup Canelo, is probably one of the most short bus theories Ive read on here . The only thought of Drugging Canelo that’s ever crossed Sauliman mind is if he should Spike Canelos Drink when they party together so Sauliman can have his fantasies turn into reality

[Thuglife Nelo]

I know you're just making **** up and you know you're just making ****
Molecular testing? What does that even mean? They use GC-MS. Perhaps that's what you meant by 'molecular testing'?

this must the dumbest shet you ever wrote on this site. You know WADA labs have sophisticated probe machines to check for nano levels and experiments for decay. If you think molecular research isn’t that you’re a dummy. Who’s “they” use?

And I already showed you this video, you dummy.

[Citizen Koba]

this must the dumbest shet you ever wrote on this site. You know WADA labs have sophisticated probe machines to check for nano levels and experiments for decay. If you think molecular research isn’t that you’re a dummy. Who’s “they” use?

And I already showed you this video, you dummy.

I seen your video and yes it didn't actually change anything but I did incorporate the new information into my overall knowledge of the situation and I have referred to it in several posts since yo u brought it to my attention some while back. I understood where his comments fit into the overall scheme but I'm not clear you do. In fact if you imagine this as some kinda magic bullet that clears Canelo then you obviously have some real gaps in your understanding, but nonetheless it was a good find which added to my understanding so I'll thank you for it now cos I can't remember if I thanked you when you first showed me. Do you need me to explain to you what it means?

And what's all this weirdness about sophisticated probe machines and decay... There's no bad teeth involved cept maybe mine and we're talking about elimination half lives not radioactive half lives.... There's no decay here, man.

Sophisticated probes then, like erm.. a mass spectrometer you mean? There's no magic here, no deus ex machina that will swoop in to save the day which appears to be the kinda argument you're trying to pull appealing to some secret tech that the public don't know about. The techniques and methodology used in this kinda testing is fully understood and openly available in the relevant research papers if you choose to look. I've read em. Maybe you should too.

[Thuglife Nelo]

The only thought of Drugging Canelo that’s ever crossed Sauliman mind is if he should Spike Canelos Drink when they party together so Sauliman can have his fantasies turn into reality

You should read the convos between me and Koba. You can learn about the left vs right theories.

But know this.. Sulaiman always vouched for Canelo and they accidentally even used context about him when the WBC spread news about WADA’s new threshold rules for the 2019 Banned list rules and procedures for Clen’s meat contamination contamination.

What that means the WBC got what they wanted because since there was NO THRESHOLD even the smallest nano trace measurement would be a positive result. That means their probes machines scanning for ANY molecule of Clen. That’s the point. Sulaiman simply complied with WADA’s rule in 2018, yet he contextualizes Canelo.

That fat piece of shet got what he wanted with Canelo dissing Jose’s legacy in the WBC strap. The WBC is the holy grail in Mexican Boxing. Canelo refused the strap various times OPENLY before the GGG matches even happened. Of course Sulaiman was going to get Canelo. Vargas was waived double the amount of Canelo. Who’s more beneficial for boxing is Canelo is a “saved?”

Again It’s obvious Sulaiman exploited the loophole and here we have Canelo haters or dummies saying “2 failed tests.” it’s just a bit sad, given all the circumstances and facts, the level of comprehension from boxing fans with WADA’s rules. It starts with WADA’s rule and papers on the subject, not VADA or the WBC.

[Thuglife Nelo]

fact if you imagine this as some kinda magic bullet that clears Canelo .

No I just enjoy the subject because I like your angle trying to prove Canelo’s guilty when the science has given the rules for comprehension and yet we examples of athletes and exonerated on the exact same case.

The reality is I’ll give you another depth on the subject that doesn’t apply to other world athletes in this situation.

1.) Canelo dissed the WBC belt, that’s why it happened.
2.) No other competitive sport had circumstances for 1mil rev PPV, therefore, money is the key
3.) WBC collects a better fee from GGG’s defense.
4.). Many of you forgot Canelo wasn’t fighting for the WBC belt in the first fight. It was only on the line for GGG. Many of you forgot this.
5.) Mexican boxing news were talking about why Canelo wasn’t fighting for the strap, That pissed off Sulaiman and his brand.

Isn’t this shet obvious? It was a fat mans ego vs cinnamons.

At the end of the day, the fat man made peace with Canelo and we got this ****** Franchise Award. The even created a smoke and mirrors effect to give it to Loma just so that it didn’t look awkward for Canelo getting it. It is such an awkward award I wouldn’t be surprised that GBp and the WBC were having a dispute regarding Canelo. Canelo has never cared for Mauricio, only Jose. Fat boy never liked that.

Everyone on the board jokes about how Mauricio caters to Canelo all the time. That fat man is just a greedy prick he’s all over the place.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Sophisticated probes then, like erm.. a mass spectrometer you mean? There's no magic here, no deus ex machina that will swoop in to save the day which appears to be the kinda argument you're trying to pull appealing to some secret tech that the public don't know about. The techniques and methodology used in this kinda testing is fully understood and openly available in the relevant research papers if you choose to look. I've read em. Maybe you should too.

I said spectrometry machine usage in our discussions way before you mentioned it homie. I know the SMRTL lab in Utah got an Orbitrap MS. Yet you still don’t even acknowledge Eichner’s statement about Canelo having consistent results with meat contamination. But you know I’ve said that before countless times you just continue with these dumh angles cause you don’t want to lose the idea that Canelo was setup.

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[Thuglife Nelo]

Canelos team who ate the meat also shoulda got blood tested to really squash things if they wanted. Truth is there’s no way to know much of anything. Nobody even knows what percentage of beef or how many beef eaters in Mexico would test for clen.

Very true. But its because GBP was naive to go against Loeffler, whom they thought had no industry backers or dare go against them. GBP isn’t new to Clen. Morales and Vargas were both GBP. One them was exonerated. If Canelo was “protected” as everyone claims, we wouldn’t know about it. The problem was Loeffler and many whom had favoritism for GGG such as Lance Pugmire and Rafael whom both reported openly on the Vargas case. In fact there’s audio of Dan Rafael saying he “believed” Sean Gibbons and Vargas’ GBp regarding the meat contamination.

Ans again, Canelo had gone against the grain with Sulaiman in refusing the WBC belt before the GGG fights happened. How do people not see that as nationalistic/pride conflict where Canelo is refusing the defacto Mexican belt. It happened. It’s without a doubt that Mauricio’s pride in his father’s legacy took effect and he wanted to discipline Canelo in literally going against his business.

I don’t know how Mexican people measure Mauricio and Canelo. But since Canelo has always been a star, it’s a huge conflict for such a fighter to refuse the defacto Mexican belt. It’s all obvious politics and the WBC always knew about Clen because Goodman and VADA knew that WADA had been revising Clen-meat contamination for a decade. That’s the reason why Vargas was exonerated, whom was also VADa and had double of Canelo. The deflectors here tru to justify Vargas or not talk about his amount nor acknowledge corruption...lol

And lastly, Mexico has more
Fighters in the top 15 than China and Russia. A lot of Chinese and Russian fighters don’t even do VADA testing. Who knows how those states run their anti-doping. There’s no uniform consistency as VADA has said countless times.