Comments Thread For: Fury vs. Joshua: Hearn Aims To Nail Down Two-Fight Deal

[MightyRubble]

Dillian Whyte

Does Hearn not remember that he also represents Dillian Whyte who has a contractual right to fight for the WBC title by Feb 2021? Whyte needs to change his promoter because Hearn is doing nothing for him.

[Eff Pandas]

What will make you say such a thing. The only tool Wilder has is a very potent right hand but that’s it. AJ right hand is not as powerful but he has a better left hook than Wilder, he fights better on the back foot than Wilder, uses his jab much more cleverly than Wilder, a better inside fighter than Wilder, has a cheeky uppercut has better defence and is stronger in the clinch. I’m not saying he can beat Fury but he definitely has more tools to be successful compared to Wilder

To be fair I mighta not worded that well. What I was suggesting is what areas is AJ superior than Fury in? Power that's about it & I feel like AJ's power is less than Wilder's & Fury did a great job of making that power a non-factor in the fight (at least in the rematch when he was better prepped for the fight). I wasn't saying AJ isn't better at more things then Wilder. I think AJ has more things he does better than Wilder. I just don't know that that gets him far when Fury does everything better than either of them minus the punching power angle.

[deathofaclown]

Hearn should stay quiet and do all the talking behind closed doors instead of running his mouth, trying to say where the fight will be and how many fights. It’s a 50/50 split, so he shouldn’t be seen as trying to take over the whole promotion.

He was the same with the Wilder negotiations. Calling Finkle “Shirley Winkle” etc. It might’ve been funny but probably best not rub people the wrong way and make them resent you even more when trying to do business.

[Chinned]

Wow I've never heard Hearn so adamant to make a unification fight. Let's see if Eddie keeps that same energy if Wilder knocks out Fury in the 3rd fight.

Had the exact same energy 18 months ago with the whole wilder negotiations. In fact he probably talked even more about it back then. Probably too much and got too personal which arguably hindered the fight, at least in terms of Finkel's willingness to talk.

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I see im just repeating what others have said tho

[Squared.Circle]

and the terms of those offers were so unfair that DAZN dropped Eddie from doing negotiations.

No lol firstly, Hearn said he stayed on the outside and left the negotiations to DAZN as he thought (quite rightly so) that his direct involvement would make them more resistant. So he couldn’t be dropped from something that he was never directly involved with. Secondly, the ONLY reason Wilder and Finkle have ever given for turning the offer down is the fact that DAZN wouldn’t tell them what AJ would be earning. Their comments are all in the media. I task you to find me any article that has reasons other than “they wouldn’t tell us what AJ was earning” or non-existent network obligations for Wilder. So much for “One name, one champion” and “it isn’t about money”.

incorrect. Couldnt have bee for 2 fights with AJ, as AJ was booked to fight Miller/Ruiz at the time, and had rematch clauses.

Again, no. The $100m was actually a three fight deal. The first fight was a guarantee of $20m for Wilder to fight his mandatory, Breazeale, in May, while AJ fought Ruiz in June. Now obviously, like most contracts that are signed that have an interim fight before the fights stipulated in the contract, it would all depend on AJ beating Ruiz.

Do Wilder fans seriously avoid anything that puts Wilder in a negative light? Lol all this has been heavily reported in the media.

Edit: Oh yea, I forgot, the only other excuse Finkle gave for turning down the offer was “we want Wilder to be seen by millions of people in the US, that wouldn’t happen on DAZN” LOL have any of Wilder’s fights ever been viewed by more than a million? I’d be shocked if so. Even if there have, guarantee it’s only been once or twice. I’d dread to think what his worldwide viewing figures are in comparison to AJ (AJ vs. Klitschko was viewed by more than 12m across Europe)

[Squared.Circle]

Had the exact same energy 18 months ago with the whole wilder negotiations. In fact he probably talked even more about it back then. Probably too much and got too personal which arguably hindered the fight, at least in terms of Finkel's willingness to talk.

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I see im just repeating what others have said tho

Nothing wrong with repeating facts. I would say the more these Wilder undercarriage lickers hear them, they might begin to see sense, but ya know...

[Dasmius Shinobi]

Eddie Hearns barking in the tree again.

We are starting the build up for the third fight. Like I said, a discipline Tyson Fury is going to beat Wilder worst in the third. Fury have more tools and Wilder room to improve is little for the July 18 third fight. Wilder have a puncher chance and he need to connect clean. I am not surprised If they improve Wilder right and some combination in the third fight.

[Squared.Circle]

To be fair I mighta not worded that well. What I was suggesting is what areas is AJ superior than Fury in? Power that's about it & I feel like AJ's power is less than Wilder's & Fury did a great job of making that power a non-factor in the fight (at least in the rematch when he was better prepped for the fight). I wasn't saying AJ isn't better at more things then Wilder. I think AJ has more things he does better than Wilder. I just don't know that that gets him far when Fury does everything better than either of them minus the punching power angle.

AJ doesn’t have to be better than Fury to beat Wilder. The attributes he has are enough; better than average boxing ability, can move well (at the right weight), is very physically strong, heavy handed and has good accuracy. If it came down to AJ staying on the outside and picking his moments, I think he’d beat Wilder up bad with the accumulation of punches and stop him before the sixth. If it came to AJ rushing him and imposing his will, AJ would stop him earlier with his much superior inside game. Obviously Wilder has that ****** power and if he catches AJ cold then it’s a safe bet to say the game is over. Wilder can only do one thing with AJ; sit and wait for that one punch. He’d take too much punishment before that one punch lands.

[Eff Pandas]

AJ doesn’t have to be better than Fury to beat Wilder.

I didn't even bring up Wilder vs AJ.

That said now that you bring it up I see it as a very 50/50 fight. I wouldn't argue very hard with anyone leaning 60/40 towards either guy. If pressed I'd probably pick Wilder assuming he isn't too negatively influenced by his first L as many can be. I think AJ handles being hurt worse than Wilder & would be less inclined to be able to fight well on the inside & up close like Fury did to negate Wilder. That said AJ is pretty fooking good at shutting a guy down with his strategic holding so maybe he could frustrate & tire out Wilder. Eh even-ish fight to me & maybe I just lean towards Wilder cuz he's a US guy like me & this whole HW thing has turned into a big US vs UK thing to some degree.

[Squared.Circle]

I didn't even bring up Wilder vs AJ.

That said now that you bring it up I see it as a very 50/50 fight. I wouldn't argue very hard with anyone leaning 60/40 towards either guy. If pressed I'd probably pick Wilder assuming he isn't too negatively influenced by his first L as many can be. I think AJ handles being hurt worse than Wilder & would be less inclined to be able to fight well on the inside & up close like Fury did to negate Wilder. That said AJ is pretty fooking good at shutting a guy down with his strategic holding so maybe he could frustrate & tire out Wilder. Eh even-ish fight to me & maybe I just lean towards Wilder cuz he's a US guy like me & this whole HW thing has turned into a big US vs UK thing to some degree.

Did you not? Lol my mistake. I just read what was quoted in your reply further up. I should have looked for your initial comment baha

I’d have to disagree with how they both handle being hurt though. AJ has enough wits about him to hold or try and use lateral movement when hurt like with Klitschko, Povetkin and Ruiz (even though it didn’t really work there lol), whereas Wilder seems to prefer putting his hands up in a high guard and walk straight backwards like he did with Fury, Molina and Ortiz for the most part. Doing that against somebody just as big with an equal reach and can **** is a veeeeeeey bad move.

For me I think it’s only even in the sense that Wilder has that concussive punch power. Which makes it annoying when trying to predict his fights lol For instance with Fury; I think Fury feints and bullies him for six rounds in the third go and stops him in more convincing fashion, and I’m fairly confident of this, but it’s still a 50/50 lol annoying as.