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  • #21
    People really, REALLY want this fight to be a robbery, but it wasn't.

    Had it for Floyd when i re-watched it.

    If Floyd lost a fight in his career, it was that first Maidana fight.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Boxing_1013 View Post
      You can't be serious...why people want to double down when they are clearly wrong, I have no idea...I guess the anonymity of the internet can do that.




      so says the biggest spastic on the internet

      come on man... since the day you joined, it was clearly obvious that you are just another idiot fanboy... you ride with ALL of the usual fanboy dribble... oh, and you make up plenty of your own

      watching a guy who clearly does not know how to score a fight (YOU)... argue with a guy who clearly does know how to score a fight... is the entertainment that you continually provide boxingscene

      tell us that story again... about how Golovkin has faced better opposition than almost every other fighter in history lol

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      • #23
        Castillo won the first fight imo. The second one was close too, Floyd fans have revised that into some sort of beatdown but it wasn't which is why 2 of the judges had it 115 113 as did hbo. For some reason Floyd fans have to lie and make out it was some 120 108 beatdown

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        • #24
          Originally posted by paulf View Post
          People really, REALLY want this fight to be a robbery, but it wasn't.

          Had it for Floyd when i re-watched it.

          If Floyd lost a fight in his career, it was that first Maidana fight.



          I think the Castillo fight was closer

          chino was active, but not accurate... Castillo was more-effective, more-often

          chino got credit for doing better than expected

          the thing is, in the first fight Mayweather fought Maidana flat-footed... the ONLY reason why Maidana landed that payday is because he beat mini-Mayweather, Broner...

          that was a blatant cherry-pick by Mayweather... they noticed how easily Devon Alexander beat the limited Maidana, so they saw chino as Floyd's "Gatti at 147"... Maidana was supposed to be a look-good showcase opponent... which is why Floyd fought him flat-footed

          in the rematch, Mayweather was back on his toes, doing his thing

          like I said... chino got extra credit for doing better than expected

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          • #25
            Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
            so says the biggest spastic on the internet

            come on man... since the day you joined, it was clearly obvious that you are just another idiot fanboy... you ride with ALL of the usual fanboy dribble... oh, and you make up plenty of your own

            watching a guy who clearly does not know how to score a fight (YOU)... argue with a guy who clearly does know how to score a fight... is the entertainment that you continually provide boxingscene

            tell us that story again... about how Golovkin has faced better opposition than almost every other fighter in history lol
            You know what's funny Time...this is actually a perfect example of your biases in action...in this situation I am clearly 100% right, and Rev is wrong...but because you dislike me, you choose to back him and support him and say he is correct.

            That is exactly what you do with fights and fighters that you support...the facts don't matter to you my friend...you just start with an endgoal in mind - 'this fighter is great' 'this fighter sucks' 'this guy won/lost' and then try and find ways to make that endgoal happen...regardless of whether or not it makes any sense.

            You're not a real boxing fan man...you're sadly just someone who is very insecure and has to live vicariously through other men who look like you...I bet if I saw you in person I would laugh, and then feel really really bad for you.

            I have never once seen you actually score a fight or post a card btw...pretty odd for a guy who posts as much as you do and swears by some results.

            Has anyone ever seen a card you've produced, or do you have any handy that you can show us?

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Boxing_1013 View Post
              Are you really that simple man...I posted the rematch scorecard because it is the most recent example in my mind of a fight where a guy had a point deducted, but still clearly won the round.

              Thus, as you can see, the judges scored the round 10-8 to Fury...and then in the POINTS DEDUCTED column right beside that, they put '1' for Fury.



              I can't help you here man...a decent man in your position, when they have clearly been proven wrong, would humble himself a bit and admit they were incorrect...it happens to all of us man.

              You always seemed like a decent dude on here, I think you more or less keep it real, though you do have some weird biases.

              But yeah this is not really a matter of opinion...you were wrong, and I tried to help you out on it, yet you continue to want to double and triple down and in doing so, try to get nasty as well.

              Fwiw, I have lost basically all and any respect I had for you...you are not a man at all in my book.
              Originally posted by Murcielago View Post
              Then why make it 10-8, instead of 10-9?
              I really don't know what's difficult here.

              Wilder/Fury 1 (that's ONE)

              Here's CBS's scorecard:



              Fury was dropped in Round 9. He otherwise won that round. You don't see them calling it 10-9 because the rules dictate that it's a 10-8 round. Same with Round 12.

              Us fans can say we "think" it should be whatever - but it doesn't matter.

              Wilder/Fury 2

              Here's CBS's scorecard:



              Now, show me where they scored 9 points on Fury for Round 5 after Bayless took a point. They should have, they didn't. That round should be automatic 10-8 for Wilder UNLESS he got dropped, which he didn't. Instead they left Fury with 10 points which doesn't make sense, but they did that because Fury was so dominant.

              Broner/Maidana

              Chino drops Broner - puts it 10-8 Chino. Chino headbutts Broner, gets a point taken off. Both guys lose a point = 9-9 is the fair score. but ONLY because both guys lost a point.

              Castillo/Mayweather

              Round 8, Castillo lost a point, period. That's a 10-8 for Floyd - nullifies everything else. Just like Wilder/Fury 1.

              Round 10 - Floyd lost a point, period. That's a 10-8 for Jose - nullifies everything else. Just like Wilder/Fury 1.

              If both guys dropped a point or one guy got dropped and one dropped a point, then you can make a case for 9-9.

              If only one fighter drops a point, it's a 10 point must.

              The reason the other cards don't make any sense is that people say it's definitely 9-9 on Round 8 but 10-8 for Jose on Round 10. Why does that make sense? It doesn't. it's just bias.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by revelated View Post
                I really don't know what's difficult here.

                Wilder/Fury 1 (that's ONE)

                Here's CBS's scorecard:



                Fury was dropped in Round 9. He otherwise won that round. You don't see them calling it 10-9 because the rules dictate that it's a 10-8 round. Same with Round 12.

                Us fans can say we "think" it should be whatever - but it doesn't matter.

                Wilder/Fury 2

                Here's CBS's scorecard:



                Now, show me where they scored 9 points on Fury for Round 5 after Bayless took a point. They should have, they didn't. That round should be automatic 10-8 for Wilder UNLESS he got dropped, which he didn't. Instead they left Fury with 10 points which doesn't make sense, but they did that because Fury was so dominant.

                Broner/Maidana

                Chino drops Broner - puts it 10-8 Chino. Chino headbutts Broner, gets a point taken off. Both guys lose a point = 9-9 is the fair score. but ONLY because both guys lost a point.

                Castillo/Mayweather

                Round 8, Castillo lost a point, period. That's a 10-8 for Floyd - nullifies everything else. Just like Wilder/Fury 1.

                Round 10 - Floyd lost a point, period. That's a 10-8 for Jose - nullifies everything else. Just like Wilder/Fury 1.

                If both guys dropped a point or one guy got dropped and one dropped a point, then you can make a case for 9-9.

                If only one fighter drops a point, it's a 10 point must.

                The reason the other cards don't make any sense is that people say it's definitely 9-9 on Round 8 but 10-8 for Jose on Round 10. Why does that make sense? It doesn't. it's just bias.
                If one guy wins the round, but has a point deducted...it is 10-9 with 1 point deducted, for a 9-9 round.

                I am showing you the OFFICIAL SCORECARDS for Fury-Wilder 2, which illustrate how pro judges score situations like that.

                I can't explain it anymore simply than that man.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                  I think the Castillo fight was closer

                  chino was active, but not accurate... Castillo was more-effective, more-often

                  chino got credit for doing better than expected

                  the thing is, in the first fight Mayweather fought Maidana flat-footed... the ONLY reason why Maidana landed that payday is because he beat mini-Mayweather, Broner...

                  that was a blatant cherry-pick by Mayweather... they noticed how easily Devon Alexander beat the limited Maidana, so they saw chino as Floyd's "Gatti at 147"... Maidana was supposed to be a look-good showcase opponent... which is why Floyd fought him flat-footed

                  in the rematch, Mayweather was back on his toes, doing his thing

                  like I said... chino got extra credit for doing better than expected
                  Btw...a little off topic...but I saw your post the other day after Wilder-Fury 2 how you called Fury the best HW and called him beating Wilder and said he would beat AJ too.

                  But I've never actually seen you actually make any solid predictions before a fight...it's always vague 'trust me, this guy will be very tough to beat when they fight again' type stuff lol.

                  I just was wondering if you had any evidence of calling stuff like that before it actually happened...seems like you are the king of coming in afterwards with 'I told you so', no matter what happens.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Boxing_1013 View Post
                    Btw...a little off topic...but I saw your post the other day after Wilder-Fury 2 how you called Fury the best HW and called him beating Wilder and said he would beat AJ too.

                    But I've never actually seen you actually make any solid predictions before a fight...it's always vague 'trust me, this guy will be very tough to beat when they fight again' type stuff lol.

                    I just was wondering if you had any evidence of calling stuff like that before it actually happened...seems like you are the king of coming in afterwards with 'I told you so', no matter what happens.




                    no... none of that happened

                    just like all the other silly stuff you make up

                    btw, you can easily check post-history

                    1) I said Fury would beat Wilder MANY times leading up to the fight... in MANY threads

                    2) I also said that Fury was the best heavyweight MANY times... in MANY threads... for MONTHS/YEARS

                    I make PLENTY of predictions kid

                    Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                    what we saw in the rematch, is that Ruiz had nothing that AJ could not handle

                    keeping that in mind, what happened to AJ in the first Ruiz fight ?

                    he caved in, to Ruiz... and I think that AJ will also cave in, to Fury

                    Fury WILL get to him... and break him down mentally and physically

                    when it starts to go wrong for AJ, it will go horribly wrong... like with Ruiz

                    Fury by clear UD or late stoppage... AJ went life-and-death with Klitschko, and he would not fight Wilder... and yet Fury beat both of those guys EASILY

                    he EASILY beat Klitschko/Wilder

                    lets face it... not only is Fury a much more well-rounded fighter than AJ, he is better on the big stage... he is a fighting man, with a true fighting temperament... we saw that with the cut, and we saw that by how Fury fought when he got up after being leveled by Wilder

                    Fury by CLEAR decision or late stoppage

                    in saying that... Hearn/AJ will not fight Tyson Fury

                    we will see the exact same shenanigan/excuses/bullshlt, that we saw from those guys when Wilder came knocking

                    the fight will probably never happen

                    AJ will make much more money by continuing to milk his fans, than by losing to Tyson Fury

                    they know that Tyson only has 1-2 fights left... they know that they only have to lie to the fans 2-3 times and they are in the clear, just like they did with Wilder

                    this fight will generate a lot of talk, but probably never happen




                    remember this prediction... ???


                    the fat red kid will lite that boy up like a christmas tree

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Boxing_1013 View Post
                      If one guy wins the round, but has a point deducted...it is 10-9 with 1 point deducted, for a 9-9 round.

                      I am showing you the OFFICIAL SCORECARDS for Fury-Wilder 2, which illustrate how pro judges score situations like that.

                      I can't explain it anymore simply than that man.

                      What's throwing you off is, who won the round?

                      In Castillo/Mayweather, Castillo didn't win the rounds. By the book.

                      Even if you subjectively thought Castillo won the round where Floyd got a point taken off, explain why it's not 9-9?

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