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  • 15 Rounds again
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    #21
    That's what happens when champions who duck fights ALL THE F*****G TIME get exposed. From.the beginning he started his ducking by not fighting Wlad, and it became.his MO at the hands of his creepy manager Finkel.
    I can win 41 games of tennis in a row if I keep choosing easy people to play against - but lose when I play against a proper opponent because I am not that good.
    Wilder will continue to be disliked and get no credit unless he takes some fights.
    Fury
    Joshua
    Whyte

    That's it. Obviously the writer of this article is one of the paid shills to enhance Wilder's reputation, and you guys have done a great job of hyping him.
    But fans are not ******- they realize what is happening when a guy ducks his main rival for years, refuses his mandatory, disrespects his trainer, makes excuses and so on. He's a fraud. Its exposed, out there.
    I will enjoy his second thrashing at the hands of his cherry pick gone wrong, and then that coward will retire.
    He owes Mark Breland, Anthony Joshua and Dillian Whyte - an apology each. So don't fire up your hype machine and start all over again - call the guy out for his bs belt hostaging, THEN come and ask fans to get behind him after he beats some actual proper guys.
    Till then, put your hype machine away, he is an unproven, mediocre, one trick pony who hasn't beaten a single fighter of any significance.
    Last edited by 15 Rounds again; 02-29-2020, 05:43 AM.

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    • dibzvincent143
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      #22
      Originally posted by DougalDylan
      I thought this was Wilders first step up fight a fully fit Fury was the opponent no one could argue with but he got taken out real easy,

      Fury is probably the best pure boxer heavyweight but a lot of other boxers Wilder has missed can box. Klitschkos used his jab like a surgical instrument at times. Usyk would be a nightmare for Wilder, he's a pound for pound cruiserweight at heavy and the weight difference that might be his undoing will be negated as Wilder is also a blown-up cruiserweight. Joshua and Povetkin are also on paper way better pure boxers than anyone Wilder has fought. Most Wilder fans think Ortiz who one every round against Wilder is a good boxer but compare his amateur record against Povetkin or Joshua and its a joke 9seriously go check).

      Years ago I saw an interview with Jay Deas where they all laughed after a win about how Wilder always ignored the game plan ... I just thought accident waiting to happen.

      Yup they’re all good on paper, that’s the point.. many of them now would be saying “oh i can do that too” but before the fight they’d be having a cautious approach too.. even someone as smart as fury didn’t realize it until he went 12 rounds with him..

      Now that there’s a blueprint of course they gonna do the same thing forward..
      But don’t tell me they are all a sure win over that version of undefeated wilder. Even fury was an underdog

      I am a fury fan, and i was not confident he’d win with that kind of approach before the fight. Easy to say “oh see that’s what u need to do with this guy” after the fight. Easy to say he’s easy to beat after he already lost.
      We forget how intriguing this fight actually was beforehand, not any expert analyst threw out bold predictions... it’s all assumptions.. Only fanboys say “oh this is a sure win bla bla bla”
      Last edited by dibzvincent143; 02-29-2020, 05:18 AM.

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      • MDPopescu
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        #23
        ... This was Bellew's post on Wilder's vid on Twitter:

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        • champion4ever
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          #24
          Originally posted by 15 Rounds again
          That's what happens when champions who duck fights ALL THE F*****G TIME get exposed. From.the beginning he started his ducking by not fighting Wlad, and it became.his MO at the hands of his creepy manager Fonkel.
          I can win 41 games of golf in a row if I keep choosing easy people to.llay against - but lose when I play against a proper opponent because I am not that good.
          Wilder will continue to be disliked and get no credit unless he takes some fights.
          Fury
          Joshua
          Whyte

          That's it. Obviously the writer of this article is one of the paid shills to enhance Wilder's reputation, and you guys have done a great job of hyping him.
          But fans are not ******- theynrealize what is happening when a guy ducks his main rival for years, refuses his mandatory, disrespects his trainer, makes excuses and so on. He's a fraud. Its exposed, out there.
          I will enjoy his second thrashing at the hands of his cherry pick gone wrong, and then that coward will retire.
          He owes Mark Breland, Anthony Joshua and Dillian Whyte - annapology each. So don't fire up your hype machine and start all over again - call the guy out for his bs belt hostaging, THEN come and ask fans to get behind him after he beats some actualmrop guys.
          Till then, put your hype machine away, he is an.unproven, mediocre, one trick pony who hasn't beaten.a single fighter of any significance.
          I am glad that you are saying this which topples the argument that Tyson is an all-time great and belongs on everyone's P4P list for defeating a limited, overachieving and overrating bum fighter with a very weak resume who cannot box. So thanks for clearing that up for us.

          Also, as far as Dillian Whyte and Anthony Joshua is concerned; He doesn't owe them shit. They both received offers from him and they both turned them down. The only man to have ever accepted a Wilder offer was the only man to have who ever defeated him and that was Tyson Fury.

          The other two never wanted any smoke from Deontay Wilder because they both knew that they would lose.

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          • Jack_sh*t
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            #25
            What utter drivel Dixon. You sound like you're trying to defend your girlfriend after she cheated on you. We don't need a lecture on Wilder's strengths & weaknesses. We're (mostly) savvy enough to know what we're looking at when it comes to fighters, unless we're the type blinded by our fandom (you know who you are.) If Wilder had shown any class he'd be getting the respect usually afforded to an outgoing champ. We'd be talking about how he achieved so much with just a basic one-two in his armoury. Instead, Wilder has biatched & moaned, made excuse on excuse, all the while refusing to accept he got absolutely leathered. Fury was robbed by the judges in the first fight, so came back and made sure they were redundant in the second. In doing so, he shocked us all. Hardly anyone predicted it. Public perception is that Fury has basically gone from zero to hero in his come-back story, it's pure Hollywood. When you put that up against the whining of Wilder, the lack of props he's given Fury, the laughable nonsense of the costume excuse (has anyone weighed it?) Is there any surprise Deontay has been made a laughing stock? He's done it to himself. We all saw the fight, don't treat us like we're ****** Deontay. If you put on a clown outfit, don't be surprised when people laugh at you.
            Last edited by Jack_sh*t; 02-29-2020, 05:42 AM.

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            • MulaKO
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              #26
              Originally posted by MDPopescu
              ... This was Bellew's post on Wilder's vid on Twitter:

              Wow
              That just blew my mind
              Has Tony Bellew changed his ways ?
              Anyways I think that was pretty cool and he’s right on the money
              Hopefully Wilder takes time to realize where this is coming from and how he can use it for self motivation

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              • Ant1979
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                #27
                Just seen the video released by Wilder on Sky Sports News, saying that 'the war has only just begun.'

                I feel for the guy now. His ego and insecurities are in drastic need of a PR team.

                This isn't going to end well for him, especially with Deas at the helm. Another beatdown and he'll be in a very dark place. In fact Fury will make mincemeat of his mind in the build up.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Adamsc151
                  Anyone who has ever served in any military would find the suit excuse laughable. I've never dissed Wilders power, if Fury had that one hit power on top of everything else the man would be truly undefeatable. The rest of Wilders game simply has never developed past novice level due to an over reliance on a power punch - that is glaringly obvious more so now than ever. The question is, at 34 years old, 40-odd fights and surely having his overconfidence taken down a peg or 2; can he adapt enough to beat Fury in an immediate rematch? I don't think so. At this point I think Joshua would beat him, possibly Whyte, Miller, Parker and a few others who have now seen how imposing their weight advantage would work on Wilder. You look at Wilders torso and wonder how he comes in so light until you see him in shorts instead of trousers, the man needs to stop skipping leg day and start actually skipping as well as doing some leg presses. Maybe even think outside of the box and start dancing to help his footwork.
                  From what you're describing, it sounds like he needs Apollo Creed to teach him to get that Eye of the Tiger back.

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                  • MDPopescu
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by MulaKO
                    Wow
                    That just blew my mind
                    Has Tony Bellew changed his ways ?
                    Anyways I think that was pretty cool and he’s right on the money
                    Hopefully Wilder takes time to realize where this is coming from and how he can use it for self motivation
                    ... Bellew always was truthful...

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                    • MulaKO
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by MDPopescu
                      ... Bellew always was truthful...
                      Well if he wasn’t he sure sounds like it in his tweet

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