Does this mean Luis Ortiz is not that great?

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I think he’s old so that’ll always be a question but I also think he just got hit.

He literally won every second of both fights before he got hit.

I think Fury-Ortiz would be a great fight.

I tend to agree, Fury also has far greater physical attributes than Ortiz. Fury also used his size and strength to beat Wilder, whilst Ortiz purely tried to outbox/outpoint him.

[El_Mero]

Only people who pushed the narrative that Ortiz was great, were the wilder fanbois on this site. Beating Jennings apparently made him an all time great. smfh

[Zelda]

Many on here (including me) said (incorrectly) that Luis Ortiz is a better boxer than Tyson Fury. If Wilder got rid of Ortiz twice and his stock seems to have fallen after the Fury defeat, where does that put Ortiz now?

It doesn't say anything about Ortiz.

It just tells you how clueless those saying Ortiz is a better boxer were. Ortiz is a good boxer (though getting older). However, Fury would not have been the Fury that beat Wilder if he were the size of Ortiz or Ruiz. Part of the tactics was to use his range to keep Wilder off and use his size and weight to bully Wilder around with WWE techniques. Kind of what Holyfield did to Tyson...manhandled him and put him off his comfort zone, took away his game plan, put him under mental and physical pressure.

[Vinnykin]

Ortiz was never close to being great..... he could have been with the right fights when he was younger.

Never proven to change his style, never proven his stamina in tough fights..... no good wins on his record.

Ortiz was decent but we will never know if he could have been great. There is no evidence he was and he didn't fight any one worth a damn where we could judge him.

[redmish]

I always knew he wasn't great. Hes beaten nobody and got stopped in both of his big fights.

[TMLT87]

Its just impossible to tell how good Ortiz is because he hasnt faced anyone of note other than Wilder for 4-5 years now. We can kind of get an idea of how AJ/Parker/Povetkin/Whyte/ruiz/Hunter/Rivas fit in to the division because theres been multiple fights involving those guys, but Ortiz hasnt been in the picture with any of them, hes fought Wilder and thats it.

[rob g]

Ortiz/Jennings was a pick ‘em fight. I remember the posts on this forum the predictions were pretty evenly split. I think Ortiz is a fantastic boxer just couldn’t handle Wilder’s crazy power. Ortiz won every round in both fights that he didn’t go down. I’d love Ortiz/Ruiz. The fight to make!