Comments Thread For: Fury-Wilder Produced Just Over 750,000 PPV Buys; Could Reach 800,000

[sicko]

Unless it's Mcgregor or Canelo, NOBODY should be fighting on PPV in the US.

Especially at 80 bucks which is ****ing absurd. Even the UFC isnt breaking 1mil PPV these days unless it's Mcgregor on the card.

The difference is nobody on a UFC card is getting a 25mil+ guarantee. Not even Mcgregor himself.

The boxing industry is too greedy with these bull**** PPVs, i'm glad it flopped.

That is true as well. Having Big Fights on Free TV like FOX and ESPN would help the sport a lot more than trying to get people to buy PPV's for guys they don't even know

[jdp28tx]

Its the cost. $80 is too much. The pric of boxing ppv has gone up, but the quality of these ppv's have gone down. If the were still $50-65 they would sell more.

There is a price that people will just not go beyond and $80 is too much.

[Pigeons]

Good number in and of itself, but with the amount of promotion involved I know everyone was hoping for 1M+. Hopefully they don't take it too hard. They had the highest Nevada heavyweight gate of all-time and were able to more than double the first fight's PPV buys. If they keep promoting it right, the third fight can do an even higher gate and can break 1M on PPV. They just need to adjust the purses for these guys, $25M each is too much. They should each get $15-17.5M guarantees before PPV numbers.

[bigdunny1]

pretty sure Arum said before the fight that 600k was break even?

It needed much higher then that to break even. Media experts say based on purses and costs to promote the fight it needed over 1M and even Arum conceeded saying 800-850K to break even and that is likely a lie from Arum to lower the bar. But whoever you believe industry experts or Arum based on the numbers so far the fight lost money didn't hit bench mark to be profitable

https://www.si.com/johnwallstreet/sports-business/wilder-fury-2

Initially, the belief was that Wilder-Fury 2 needed to do between 1 million and 1.1 million homes for the fight to break-even, but Arum says with closed circuit sales (think: bars, restaurant chains) and gate receipts coming in higher than the models anticipated, break-even is now between 800,000 and 850,000 buys.

[D4thincarnation]

Very impressive.

People forget that in the days of Tyson and Lewis piracy and illegal streams were pretty much non existent.

[strykr619]

They needed over 1 mil to break even and got 800k.

Any you believe the "Hollywood accounting" ? Nonsense, the fight made money. TV just doesn't want to pay out so they claim a loss.

[xhiddenx87]

750,000? Yeah right. Can't trust the news anymore. My guess is no PPV without Floyd or Pac or Mcgregor gets 750,000 anymore. I'm su****ious they lied about Canelo-GGG PPV numbers too because if Canelo was really pulling 1 mil PPVs would he be on DAZN? Just saying...

I bet this sold 350k to 500k. Canelo-GGG probably sold 450k to 600K. Just a guess.

We all are waiting on your sources, can you provide any please?

[harry-greb]

Neither guy was a PPV draw going into the fight. Pretty much every fight that has done over 1 Million buys have featured at least 1 established PPV draw.

This was the first fight whereby these guys have been promoted to a mainstream audience. If Fox and ESPN continue to promote these guys the 3rd fight with Fury and Wilder will do over a million buys.

Fair point. But I thought with the combined power of espn/fox behind it and the narrative of the first fight, 1 million buys was achievable. I'd say Bob and Al are disappointed.

[LoadedWraps]

The Tyson Fury-Deontay Wilder rematch was the most-watched heavyweight pay-per-view fight in the United States in more than 17 years. Their heavily hyped showdown did not, however, reach the expectations of its optimistic organizers. BoxingScene.com has learned that the event is projected to have produced slightly more than 750,000 pay-per-view buys in the U.S., the highest rate for a heavyweight fight through that platform since Lennox Lewis-Mike Tyson in June 2002. Lewis' eighth-round knockout of Tyson generated roughly 1,970,000 buys, the second-highest total for a heavyweight fight in pay-per-view history.
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Fury is the face of boxing. The cash cow. The golden goose.

[Dr_Calvin]

If this is correct and the US numbers were around 1/3 of Bob Arum's estimate then I bet the PPV numbers in the UK for BT Sport with the fight at 5am were ugly for BT Sport.