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  • MulaKO
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    #31
    Originally posted by Get em up
    My point exactly. This is heavyweight boxing for God's sake once punch can change EVERYTHING!
    I noticed that many of the people asking for a third fight not to happen are actually the haters , which is fine , don’t make no difference to me but just seems a little odd imo
    The same way they are calling Fury an atg but only after he beat the so-called bum Wilder
    I made a thread earlier on stating that you can’t have it both ways
    Did he beat a bum or a good fighter

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    • TMLT87
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      #32
      Originally posted by Get em up
      the whole hype to the rematch was 1 side says Fury won the first fight 1 side says Fury was saved by Jack Reiss
      It was more like 90% of people said Fury won and 10% of mainly LDBC racists clung to the idea that a guy who got up and won the rest of the round like nothing happened should have been counted out in the final round of a world title fight he was clearly winning.

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      • Get em up
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        #33
        Originally posted by MulaKO
        I noticed that many of the people asking for a third fight not to happen are actually the haters , which is fine , don’t make no difference to me but just seems a little odd imo
        The same way they are calling Fury an atg but only after he beat the so-called bum Wilder
        I made a thread earlier on stating that you can’t have it both ways
        Did he beat a bum or a good fighter

        People can call Wilder a bum if they want but alot of the people calling him a bum on here are the same people not willing to admit that AJ got hit by Ruiz in the same exact spot in the same exact round ( round 3 ) then made it to 7 before the ref stopped it. AJ came back and redeemed himself no matter how he did it. Afford Wilder the same chance.

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          #34
          Originally posted by TMLT87
          It was more like 90% of people said Fury won and 10% of mainly LDBC racists clung to the idea that a guy who got up and won the rest of the round like nothing happened should have been counted out in the final round of a world title fight he was clearly winning.

          There were still 2 sides to the story and an official ruling that was different as well. I'm not gonna debate on who won or who lost I was just happy they ran it back and will be happy to watch the 3rd one

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            #35
            Originally posted by MulaKO
            Doesn’t anybody recall how AJ was beaten in the first fight
            How so many of us said that he would be beaten in the rematch , how he had lost his it ´ factor and would be beaten again
            So , weren’t we all wrong , although our thinking was reasonable at the time
            I ain’t no fan of Wilder but stranger things have happened
            No we weren't 'all wrong'. It was just thickos that hate AJ, even the bookies had AJ favourite going into the rematch.

            Ruiz was a massive underdog in the first fight and many considered it a fluke W. He even got knocked on his ass.

            AJ has almost every advantage over him and has proven he could box 12 against Parker a guy that had beaten Ruiz himself.

            The writing was on the wall but you lot chose to ignore it just to belittle AJ go as far saying dumb stuff like "there's no way".

            Wilder has outclassed (twice), outfought and rag dolled by Fury's physicall superiority. If Wilder was to win a rematch it will be against the odds and not prove a lot becuase we already know Wilder has a punchers chance against anyone.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Jax teller
              No we weren't 'all wrong'. It was just thickos that hate AJ, even the bookies had AJ favourite going into the rematch.

              Ruiz was a massive underdog in the first fight and many considered it a fluke W. He even got knocked on his ass.

              AJ has almost every advantage over him and has proven he could box 12 against Parker a guy that had beaten Ruiz himself.

              The writing was on the wall but you lot chose to ignore it just to belittle AJ go as far saying dumb stuff like "there's no way".

              Wilder has outclassed (twice), outfought and rag dolled by Fury's physicall superiority. If Wilder was to win a rematch it will be against the odds and not prove a lot becuase we already know Wilder has a punchers chance against anyone.

              That is your opinion which you are entitled to
              Everyone wasn’t just knocking on AJ cause of hate and funny you bring that up
              The reason why people doubted AJ was cause of his state of mind for starters
              Secondly the beating he took in that first fight

              So why aren’t you giving Wilder any chance of winning the rubber match since your so unbiased
              Let me guess your one of those guys that’s calling Fury an atg but only after he beat Wilder

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                #37
                Originally posted by champion4ever
                I know its a country but neither is Africa which is continent that it comprised of many different countries and tribes as well.

                Mexico is a country and is like any other sub culture and race too with many different ethnic groups residing there. If they are not considered white/racial then what are they?
                I dunno, some Mexican for sure are white (fair skin and european/spanish heritage), like Canelo, some are mixed, some are dark skinned, but it doesn't seem to be a big deal like in the US there...

                And that was my point, this white and black stuff from the US is ridiculous, even coming from a black man. You don't have to overplay that game like Wilder did.

                And Wilder is not African, no part of any countries or tribe from there.

                You doesn't make sense, and you can't because you are defending a dumb theory and dumb actions from Wilder who seems to suffer identity troubles, wich makes me feel sad for him, but at the same time, I can't defend that sht.

                (ho and I 'm european by the way so see my different point of view)

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by BillyBoxing
                  I dunno, some Mexican for sure are white (fair skin and european/spanish heritage), like Canelo, some are mixed, some are dark skinned, but it doesn't seem to be a big deal like in the US there...

                  And that was my point, this white and black stuff from the US is ridiculous, even coming from a black man. You don't have to overplay that game like Wilder did.

                  And Wilder is not African, no part of any countries or tribe from there.

                  You doesn't make sense, and you can't because you are defending a dumb theory and dumb actions from Wilder who seems to suffer identity troubles, wich makes me feel sad for him, but at the same time, I can't defend that sht.

                  (ho and I 'm european by the way so see my different point of view)
                  I am going to be polite because you've been very respectful of me. Therefore I am going to be very respectful of you even though we don't agree.

                  Unfortunately, we white people will never understand the hurt, pain, degradation and persecution that the blacks has suffered in this country and yet they are still thriving and excelling to this day.

                  I know Wilder isn't from the continent of Africa but his ancestors are certainly from there; Who were brought here involuntarily to this country against their will through the Middle passage or the Trans Atlantic slave trade to build America.

                  I don't expect unsympathetic whites such yourself to feel any empathy or understanding of what I am attempting to convey because in your mind you think we are all living on an even playing field but that is not the case. There is a thing called white privilege you know and we are apart of it. However, the blacks have been treated horribly in this country.

                  Yet the blacks have helped built America and therefore should be recognize for their excellence, sacrifices and achievements like all other groups are acknowledged for theirs. It's a damn shame that our schools don't teach tolerance and multi-culturalism.

                  The lack of education is the root of all ignorance. People have certain attitudes because they have not been taught any better by their parents or teachers.

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                  • BillyBoxing
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by champion4ever
                    I am going to be polite because you've been very respectful of me. Therefore I am going to be very respectful of you even though we don't agree.

                    Unfortunately, we white people will never understand the hurt, pain, degradation and persecution that the blacks has suffered in this country and yet they are still thriving and excelling to this day.

                    I know Wilder isn't from the continent of Africa but his ancestors are certainly from there; Who were brought here involuntarily to this country against their will through the Middle passage or the Trans Atlantic slave trade to build America.

                    I don't expect unsympathetic whites such yourself to feel any empathy or understanding of what I am attempting to convey because in your mind you think we are all living on an even playing field but that is not the case. There is a thing called white privilege you know and we are apart of it. However, the blacks have been treated horribly in this country.

                    Yet the blacks have helped built America and therefore should be recognize for their excellence, sacrifices and achievements like all other groups are acknowledged for theirs. It's a damn shame that our schools don't teach tolerance and multi-culturalism.

                    The lack of education is the root of all ignorance. People have certain attitudes because they have not been taught any better by their parents or teachers.

                    What do you mean by WE "white people"?

                    Bro, you are getting it.

                    How do you know I can't understand at all what happened to those people? I can only have empathy for light skinned people?Because I'm white? A chinese would understand better? Only black people can understand black people?
                    You guys have been educated in such a segregationist way of thinking, it's scary.

                    I mean, that is the problem. You put myself in the same bag as yours because we share the same skin colour. And that is where we won't agree. To me you're american, period.

                    I'm not related to American history. I have no beef with what happened btw black and white people there.
                    So somehow, yeah, I don't give a F. Because the world doesn't revolve around USA and the slave trade.
                    This planet have been wars and suffering and slavery and horrible stuff for thousands of years, everywhere.

                    And most people in the world watching the fight, in Asia ect...couldn't care less. That's why I thought it was off.

                    And that's the problem with americans, you guys, despite being a fantastic and very rich country don't travel.
                    75% of you don't have a passeport, and yall see everything through the american matrix.

                    Many times some american dudes that I met travelling told me that "Most american people are narrow minded, ethnocentred, and obsessed with racism, and races, due to history"

                    AND yes, I totally understand what you meant, it is just that you not should expect a guy like me to buy Wilder's bullshts?

                    Wilder might be a victim and has reasons to act this way, but it is still sad and a bad look for the USA.
                    The fact that yall see it as normal tells it all.
                    I wish thinhs could be different, but your country ain't getting better with some "black power" stuff, black power is just the mirror of "white power", so dog sht mirror is still dog sht.
                    Last edited by BillyBoxing; 02-27-2020, 10:11 AM.

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                    • LoadedWraps
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by MC Hammer
                      So Fury comes out as a king being carried and even calls himself the Gypsy King and it's all good, but Wilder being proud of being black is a problem.
                      Gypsy king is a nickname.

                      Only one was forcing a racial narrative.

                      Either way it has nothing to do with the actual fight.

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