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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Comments Thread For: Weekend Rout Beat The Necessity Out of Fury-Wilder Rivalry

    By Lyle Fitzsimmons - Deontay Wilder was bleeding from the ear. And come to think it, so was I. The now-former heavyweight champion had been injured from a punch to the head from conquering behemoth Tyson Fury. As for me I think it was just my eardrum recoiling from hearing Bob Arum sing. Either way, it was certainly an eventful Saturday...
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    Whether people like it or not Wilder deserves his chance to redeem is first career loss. Fury dominated him Saturday and I for 1 would love to see a completely unified division. That said it seems like everybody forgot about AJ's horrific defeat and alot of people were sure he couldn't come back from it yet here we are talking about Fury fighting him for all the marbles. In due time possibly we will but give Wilder his chance to get his revenge first.

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    • Gamboal00
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      #3
      Good piece.

      I hope the media do not go too overboard on Fury's ability. He must be given huge credit for dismantling Wilder, but Wilder can't box and as you say the haymaker to the side of the head was key in making Fury look a world beater after it landed.

      Fury's resume is very thin. A way past it WK and an overrated Wilder are the only notable names. So any talk of 'one of the best ever' when speaking about him is ludicrous right now.

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      • BillyBoxing
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        Originally posted by Get em up
        Whether people like it or not Wilder deserves his chance to redeem is first career loss. Fury dominated him Saturday and I for 1 would love to see a completely unified division. That said it seems like everybody forgot about AJ's horrific defeat and alot of people were sure he couldn't come back from it yet here we are talking about Fury fighting him for all the marbles. In due time possibly we will but give Wilder his chance to get his revenge first.
        On paper Wilder should get a rematch.

        But, I don't think he automatically does for many reasons:

        1. He lost a first fight got a gift decision as far as I'm concerned, came up with excuses (black magic, I was hill, hurt my hand) knowing he lost. This fight already was a rematch.

        2. He litteraly was not competitive in the rematch

        3. He brought up the race card to the event. I think his entrance was tribal, classless and off.

        4. He came up with excuses again (costume, DIrell conspiracy), showing no class AGAIN.

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          Personally, I wouldn't exercise the immediate rematch clause. Deontay Wilder's body needs time to rest and heal. He won't be ready for Tyson Fury in a trilogy.

          In addition, I wouldn't mind him taking at least a year off. He needs a sabbatical or a hiatus if you will, in order to survey the heavyweight landscape and to reassess and introspect on his boxing career.

          However, most of all, he needs time to work on his boxing skills and fundamentals. He really needs to, so he can develop into a more complete and well rounded fighter.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Get em up
            Whether people like it or not Wilder deserves his chance to redeem is first career loss. Fury dominated him Saturday and I for 1 would love to see a completely unified division. That said it seems like everybody forgot about AJ's horrific defeat and alot of people were sure he couldn't come back from it yet here we are talking about Fury fighting him for all the marbles. In due time possibly we will but give Wilder his chance to get his revenge first.
            He had already lost the first fight.

            Fury has won 15 out of 17 rounds against him. It's noncompetitive, the trilogy isn't needed.

            It's fine by me though, i'm more than happy to watch Fury retire Wilder and then beat up AJ. There's no rush as far as i'm concerned.

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              Originally posted by BillyBoxing
              He brought up the race card to the event. I think his entrance was tribal, classless and off.
              It was a celebration of Black history month man and Deontay Wilder happens to be black. So what's so wrong with a black person celebrating his heritage and all of the contributions, gifts and sacrifices that his people has made for this country and for our society?

              Do you say the same thing about Canelo Alvarez when he celebrates Cinco De Mayo and Mexican Independence Day on his fight dates here in the states while celebrating his rich Mexican heritage and culture in the process?

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                #8
                My belief is that Wilder has two good options. (1) He can accept a substantial financial offer to step aside and let Fury fight Anthony Joshua or (2) He can exercise his option for a rematch with Fury in the UK and reap an even better reward financially and (win or lose) then retire from boxing. The second option is in my opinion the best of the two for Wilder as the financial reward would be greater and it would leave his legacy intact. Legacy intact? Yes, he would retire with only two losses and both would have been to the same man, a great fighter who just happens to have Deontay's number. If Wilder fights on his legacy will only diminish as he'll suffer losses to lesser opponents than Fury and history will remember. If Wilder takes the path laid out in option two he will also one day be in the Boxing Hall of Fame. He will be remembered as a world champion who reigned for five years, ended his career with 41 wins, 40 KOs, one draw and only two losses which were both to the same great boxer.

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                  Originally posted by denium
                  He had already lost the first fight.

                  Fury has won 15 out of 17 rounds against him. It's noncompetitive, the trilogy isn't needed.

                  It's fine by me though, i'm more than happy to watch Fury retire Wilder and then beat up AJ. There's no rush as far as i'm concerned.


                  Consensus is he lost the first fight. Yet his record shows it as a draw. He deserves the chance to gain his titles back. Although I do think Fury will beat him again he may suprise everybody. 1 punch is all it takes to change the course of a fight.

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                    Fury owns Wilder already. Wilder has to overcome the trauma of being beat twice. Psychologically, he needs to heal and to figure Fury out. Going straight into another bout with Fury will be a disaster as Fury will beat him up again.

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