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  • Legends456
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    Question for Black / African-American Boxing Fans

    I know that Wilder has always tried to represent his people and culture, much like Canelo does for Mexicans or Fury does for Gypsy’s. There’s nothing wrong with that; I actually think it’s a beautiful thing if done correctly.

    I want to know what African-American / Black posters on this site feel about his reactions to his first loss. I am not African-American, and although I have a bit of a mixed heritage with some Afro-Latin, I really don’t feel Wilder represents me or my culture. My wife has some distant African-American heritage but wasn’t raised in the culture or anything.

    So to my friends who really felt represented by Wilder, how do you feel about his excuses? I’m not going to bash anyone’s feelings or opinions, I just really want to know. I fear for him that he will lose many of his fans but want to know what people think. Stephen Smith doesn’t seem happy with him so I assume other people may not be either.
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    Most of us black fight fans knew Wilder wasn't very skilled and getting by on power. Its not surprising he would get beat someday, plenty of us thought he lost the first fight. What is surprising to most is Fury deciding to become a pressure fighter. That is something fans and experts of all races didn't believe he would do.

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      Originally posted by Mister Wolf
      Most of us black fight fans knew Wilder wasn't very skilled and getting by on power. Its not surprising he would get beat someday, plenty of us thought he lost the first fight. What is surprising to most is Fury deciding to become a pressure fighter. That is something fans and experts of all races didn't believe he would do.
      Thanks for your reply.
      I had picked Wilder to win a decision, thought he would box better and go to the body more and maybe score another knockdown. I was as surprised as anyone. Do you feel Fury fought dirty? I know the first knockdown was a bit controversial, but I don’t think he was aiming for the back of his head when he turned all of the sudden. Fury did well I feel and showed some shades of two of my favorites, Andre Ward and B-Hop, but I know that style is not everyone’s cup of tea. I think Wilder would have been best off not saying anything more than he said after the fight, recovered, got back to the gym and maybe hired a new trainer who could help him with his inside game.

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      • Thuglife Nelo
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        In before the Big Dunn cries about TIMESTAMPS and claims that I’m racist when I don’t even have opening opinions or questions as such!

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        • LOWBLOW_CHAMP
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          wilder represented america! i know many wilder fans of all races. america needs all the boxers it can get so it was only natural to root for wilder unless you have some kind of bias against him.

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          • DumpkinsPlus5
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            Wilder losing didn't make me any less of a fan. His excuses might do the trick.

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            • rolshans
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              Originally posted by LOWBLOW_CHAMP
              wilder represented america! i know many wilder fans of all races. america needs all the boxers it can get so it was only natural to root for wilder unless you have some kind of bias against him.
              However prevalent, it's equally bizarre to cheer for someone based off nationality as it is for ethnicity.

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              • Mister Wolf
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                Originally posted by Legends456
                Thanks for your reply.
                I had picked Wilder to win a decision, thought he would box better and go to the body more and maybe score another knockdown. I was as surprised as anyone. Do you feel Fury fought dirty? I know the first knockdown was a bit controversial, but I don’t think he was aiming for the back of his head when he turned all of the sudden. Fury did well I feel and showed some shades of two of my favorites, Andre Ward and B-Hop, but I know that style is not everyone’s cup of tea. I think Wilder would have been best off not saying anything more than he said after the fight, recovered, got back to the gym and maybe hired a new trainer who could help him with his inside game.
                The first knockdown isn't controversial. If you expose the illegal part of your head(turning or bending down) while your opponent is throwing a punch then it is considered a legal blow. Same situation with Wilder's first knockdown of Fury in their first fight. The rule is in place to prevent fighters from using illegal defensive tactics like turning away or ducking down below their opponents waist. As far as roughhouse tactics, that's been apart of boxing for as long as I can remember.

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  Originally posted by Mister Wolf
                  Most of us black fight fans knew Wilder wasn't very skilled and getting by on power. Its not surprising he would get beat someday, plenty of us thought he lost the first fight. What is surprising to most is Fury deciding to become a pressure fighter. That is something fans and experts of all races didn't believe he would do.
                  Really good post.

                  Wilder losing doesn't affect the culture in any way. He lost a fight. The way Fury fought elevated the HWT division and thus the sport. It also elevated British boxing.

                  As for his excuses, they are embarrassing for him and reveal his true character. He is blaming everyone rather than taking responsibility for the loss. He needs to get off social media and then hold a press conference, own everything, and move forward.

                  IMO he's lost any chance of being the next face of AMerican boxing, even if he were to win the 3rd fight, which I highly doubt.

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                  • deathofaclown
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                    The problem is that this LDBC or LGBT or whatever they’re called probably give a bad representation of what real boxing fans are when it comes to black folk supporting boxers. They’re just a tiny deluded group of people. I don’t know why anybody with an IQ above 80 takes any notice of them.

                    I’m sure the majority of boxing fans or any race or nationality are just rational and logical and understand Wilder got whooped but understand that it’s part of the game.

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