Question for Black / African-American Boxing Fans

[The Big Dunn]

The first knockdown isn't controversial. If you expose the illegal part of your head(turning or bending down) while your opponent is throwing a punch then it is considered a legal blow. Same situation with Wilder's first knockdown of Fury in their first fight. The rule is in place to prevent fighters from using illegal defensive tactics like turning away or ducking down below their opponents waist. As far as roughhouse tactics, that's been apart of boxing for as long as I can remember.

Yeah, after he got hit with the power jab in round 1, wilder was doing anything he could to avoid it further. Sadly for him, the only defensive move he knows are hugging, holding and bending over. He lacked any of the subtle head movement to avoid shots or rolling with them to negate the effect.

[emceetns]

I know that Wilder has always tried to represent his people and culture, much like Canelo does for Mexicans or Fury does for Gypsy’s. There’s nothing wrong with that; I actually think it’s a beautiful thing if done correctly.

I want to know what African-American / Black posters on this site feel about his reactions to his first loss. I am not African-American, and although I have a bit of a mixed heritage with some Afro-Latin, I really don’t feel Wilder represents me or my culture. My wife has some distant African-American heritage but wasn’t raised in the culture or anything.

So to my friends who really felt represented by Wilder, how do you feel about his excuses? I’m not going to bash anyone’s feelings or opinions, I just really want to know. I fear for him that he will lose many of his fans but want to know what people think. Stephen Smith doesn’t seem happy with him so I assume other people may not be either.

I personally didn't care for his excuses and if anything he should take a page from some of the heroes he displayed during his ring entrance. He can do that by:

1. Owning the loss
2. Watching film of the fight and
3. Improving his skill set

He blames Mark Breland for throwing in the towel yet he fails to accept his part in WHY Breland threw in the towel. (Hint: It wasn't because Wilder was competitive)

I believe that Deontay Wilder can come back from the loss; he just needs to take a page from Anthony Joshua. Block out the ridicule, recover, get back in the gym and improve.

[KING MEAT]

as a black man, he under delivered.

[BoxingTrav]

Really good post.

Wilder losing doesn't affect the culture in any way. He lost a fight. The way Fury fought elevated the HWT division and thus the sport. It also elevated British boxing.

As for his excuses, they are embarrassing for him and reveal his true character. He is blaming everyone rather than taking responsibility for the loss. He needs to get off social media and then hold a press conference, own everything, and move forward.

IMO he's lost any chance of being the next face of AMerican boxing, even if he were to win the 3rd fight, which I highly doubt.

I totally agree with everything you wrote. To go further and perhaps more importantly, this shows me that he will never improve. If you can't see your faults you won't know what to correct.

Tyson in a draw saw holes in his game. He didn't do the immediate rematch and eventually found the right trainer to maximize his talents.

[nacho daddy]

wilder represented america! i know many wilder fans of all races. america needs all the boxers it can get so it was only natural to root for wilder unless you have some kind of bias against him.

bullsh it. he entered the ring dressed like a wakandian witch doctor

[LOWBLOW_CHAMP]

this is true, but thats boxing! always has been always will be

[boxinggod101]

I totally agree with everything you wrote. To go further and perhaps more importantly, this shows me that he will never improve. If you can't see your faults you won't know what to correct.

Tyson in a draw saw holes in his game. He didn't do the immediate rematch and eventually found the right trainer to maximize his talents.

Remember Wilder ssying, I only need to be perfect for 1 second. This guy kept disrespecting the sport and paid the price. Of course he has all the bs excuse but he got totally destroyed and I am celebrating it.

You can't rely on landing one punch all your career. The guy skills is pure trash with sick power... thats all he has.

[Kuyukut]

as a black man, he under delivered.

excuse me, we're talking about the color of the skin and not the color of your teeth... which we call cavities, idiot!

[The Big Dunn]

I totally agree with everything you wrote. To go further and perhaps more importantly, this shows me that he will never improve. If you can't see your faults you won't know what to correct.

Tyson in a draw saw holes in his game. He didn't do the immediate rematch and eventually found the right trainer to maximize his talents.

Exactly. Instead of talking about not being able to defend himself against Fury's attack, he's blaming Breland and Dirrell for stopping the fight.

He doesn't seem to realize at that point his toughness was working against him. Taking all those shots to the head would only cause permanent damage and prevent him from having any chance at resurrecting his career, not to mention being able to play and talk t his kids FFS.

[BoxingTrav]

Remember Wilder ssying, I only need to be perfect for 1 second. This guy kept disrespecting the sport and paid the price. Of course he has all the bs excuse but he got totally destroyed and I am celebrating it.

You can't rely on landing one punch all your career. The guy skills is pure trash with sick power... thats all he has.

True but I find that to be amazing. It took a special fighter, that was bigger and better to hand him a loss. I know it's time to dump on him but what he has achieved has been remarkable.