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  • #51
    There are excuses and there are excuses. I mean, wrong game plan, lack of preparation, underestimating your opponent are OK in my book. Heavy costume, however... Hmm...

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    • #52
      Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
      not that high and I don’t think fury beats Joshua.
      Joshua will only get better now
      And none of them can hold a candle to a Lennox Lewis.
      Yeah well Andy Ruiz beat AJ so who knows.

      Lennox had some bad losses as well...but also much better wins than AJ so far...but AJ is young so we will see.

      AJ has suspect cardio, chin, and punch resistance as well...so I'm not really sold on him being a big time player...certainly reminiscent of a Frank Bruno...and no shame in that really.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by MusoMeanderings View Post
        There are excuses and there are excuses. I mean, wrong game plan, lack of preparation, underestimating your opponent are OK in my book. Heavy costume, however... Hmm...
        I hear ya...again I think when your livelihood depends on people tuning in to see you fight...you get some leeway from me as far as what comes out of your mouth.

        This isn't like other sports where your salary is basically fixed and is tied into how well you play the sport...in fight sports, your salary depends not really on how good you are...but on how much people want to tune in to see you fight.

        The more attention the better, you could argue.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Boxing_1013 View Post
          Yeah well Andy Ruiz beat AJ so who knows.

          Lennox had some bad losses as well...but also much better wins than AJ so far...but AJ is young so we will see.

          AJ has suspect cardio, chin, and punch resistance as well...so I'm not really sold on him being a big time player...certainly reminiscent of a Frank Bruno...and no shame in that really.
          well he just skated a 12 round decision and showed good stamina in winning that.
          I suspect it’s due to him carrying to much muscle and he came in lighter in the Ruiz rematch and showed no stamina issues.
          Next answer AJ chin is not a George chuvalo or Evander holyfields but he been clocked and he’s also got up and he has never avoided a puncher like wilder has....Joshua has faced punchers in Whyte,klitchcko,povetkin and Ruiz and mostly took his digs and came back.
          Joshua is far more talented than a Bruno and if you think that then you shouldn’t be watching boxing.
          Joshua boxed a clinic in his last fight and will only get better now imo

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          • #55
            Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
            well he just skated a 12 round decision and showed good stamina in winning that.
            I suspect it’s due to him carrying to much muscle and he came in lighter in the Ruiz rematch and showed no stamina issues.
            Next answer AJ chin is not a George chuvalo or Evander holyfields but he been clocked and he’s also got up and he has never avoided a puncher like wilder has....Joshua has faced punchers in Whyte,klitchcko,povetkin and Ruiz and mostly took his digs and came back.
            Joshua is far more talented than a Bruno and if you think that then you shouldn’t be watching boxing.
            Joshua boxed a clinic in his last fight and will only get better now imo
            Frank Bruno never lost to anyone as bad as Andy Ruiz man...he lost to Tyson Lennox and Bonecrusher Smith lol...maybe Witherspoon but he was pretty good then.

            Lol at saying AJ has faced punchers and Wilder hasn't...Ortiz has 26 KOs in 31 fights...so there's 2 fights with him.

            Lol at Whyte being a power puncher but Breazeale, Stiverne, Washington not being...Whyte I think has the lowest KO ratio of all of those guys.

            Ruiz has 22 KOs in 33 wins
            Whyte 18 KOs in 27 wins
            Povetkin has 24 KOs in 35 wins...and he was 40

            Breazeale 18 KOs in 20 wins
            Ortiz 26 KOs in 31 wins...2 fights with Ortiz btw
            Stiverne 21 KOs in 25 wins
            Washington 13 KOs in 20 wins

            Doesn't look like AJ is facing bigger punchers to me...I will grant you Wlad of course.

            Facts just don't matter to most people on here...just whatever narrative they want to be true.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Boxing_1013 View Post
              Maybe it's just me...but I would rather a guy fight like a warrior in the ring, and make some excuses afterwards as to why he lost...vs taking the easy way out in a fight and then acting like a gentleman.

              Don't get me wrong, I respect a guy who acts like a gentleman, 100%...but everyone makes excuses after they lose really, in some form or fashion...you have to, otherwise you are basically saying you have 0 chance to beat that guy and never could...how often do we ever hear that? Never...guys always have an 'excuse'...just human nature.

              Wilder is just trying to find something to help himself cope, and find some fuel mentally to figure out how to beat Fury/again be the top man (which he viewed himself as)...also, importantly, boxers are their own promoters, so I don't really hold their 'crazy' words against them...they have to be their own hype man and sometimes that includes saying crazy stuff to get attention.

              That may not be Wilder's intention here...but he showed a lot of heart in there against a bigger better (on the night) fighter...hats off to him and I think he will bounce back...would still love to see him KO AJ.
              Men shouldn’t make excuses.

              Women shouldn’t make excuses either.

              Nobody wants to hear them.

              I dunno I work a career where I have a moral duty to tell the truth too.

              But it doesn’t sit right with most adult human tbh.

              We know when someone is chatting s.hit and it annoys us.

              100% AJ took his loss well.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Sparked_26 View Post
                Men shouldn’t make excuses.

                Women shouldn’t make excuses either.

                Nobody wants to hear them.

                I dunno I work a career where I have a moral duty to tell the truth too.

                But it doesn’t sit right with most adult human tbh.

                We know when someone is chatting s.hit and it annoys us.

                100% AJ took his loss well.
                Huh? He made a lot of excuses...about 20 minutes worth here:

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzLU...ature=emb_logo

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Boxing_1013 View Post
                  I'm not even a fan of his...I'm more of a fan of Fury's...and picked Fury to win.

                  Yeah AJ did make excuses though...he just voiced in a different, more polished, gentlemanly way...but everyone makes excuses when they lose.

                  You could say it wasn't the same type of excuses as Wilder...that's fair...but yes still excuses...and who cares...any time you lose, you have to make excuses otherwise you are conceding that you can never beat that guy/team.

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo

                  The whole video above, for example.

                  2:55 in particular...talking about how he looked past Ruiz, towards his next fight which he thought would be with Wilder.

                  4:55 - 'everything it meant to Ruiz winning, is everything it didn't mean to me beating him' EXCUSES!! Come on man just keep it real
                  Originally posted by Sparked_26 View Post
                  Men shouldn’t make excuses.

                  Women shouldn’t make excuses either.

                  Nobody wants to hear them.

                  I dunno I work a career where I have a moral duty to tell the truth too.

                  But it doesn’t sit right with most adult human tbh.

                  We know when someone is chatting s.hit and it annoys us.

                  100% AJ took his loss well.
                  A few pointed out for you above, just fyi.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Boxing_1013 View Post
                    Huh? He made a lot of excuses...about 20 minutes worth here:

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzLU...ature=emb_logo
                    To be fair there’s a few there.

                    Tell me this, did you want to hear AJ’s excuses?

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                    • #60
                      It’s okay, his excuses will make for a fun lead in to the third fight. Fury will make a lot of funny jokes!!

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