I'm done with Wilder

[Boxing_1013]

Dude, little children do this. Their parents, teachers, coaches etc teach them not to do so. This is a part of growing up, not acting like a child any more but as a man that takes responsibility.

Deontay Wilder is 34 years old.



That's slightly different. Learning from your mistakes is a positive characteristic. Seeking to blame others for our own failings is not.



Then he's a lousy one. Hardcore fans are aghast at his treatment of Mark Breland, head and shoulders the best man in his corner and the only one with the balls to do the right thing by him. His response? Throwing him under the bus. It's made him look weak, foolish and vindictive. Not a good look.

Casuals are laughing at his costume excuse. It's a gift wrapped meme that will follow him for the rest of his career. He's gone from 'baddest man on the planet' to the dude that blames his defeats on his wack ass costume.

His statements are the PR equivalent of emptying a full clip into your own foot. Then reloading and taking out the other one.

And yet here we are, talking about him and his comments, and you are now probably more likely to tune in to see him fight, as you will be hoping to see him get KOed again.

If fighters/boxers didn't serve as their own promoters/didn't need to have to try and sell their fights so much, then I would probably agree that Wilder's excuses are a bit over the top.

But he is his own promoter and his livelihood does depend on getting people interested, good or bad, enough to tune in to watch him fight.

We can argue semantics all day...when you lose, you make excuses...if you don't make excuses, you are basically admitting that you could never beat that person/team...every athlete/person makes excuses when they lose.

Think back to some times you lost...I'm sure you included in there some rather bizarre excuses.

[mjbjst]

Wilder finna KO this white boi in the rematch, Wilder gonna tell him some mean stuff that makes Fury get depressed and all upset make that boy do crack again. Easy win for the black king

1-1

He looked like a black queen to me *****

[andocom]

Thanks man.

I don't think I can explain it much better than I did in my original post...when you lose, you make excuses...everyone that loses, does it...you can blame external factors - the refs, judges, opponent cheating etc...or you can blame internal factors - injury, bad gameplan, wearing a 40 lb suit apparently lol.

Think back to the last time you lost at something, and what you told yourself...'oh I should have done this differently, etc'...it's what we all do man.

You could argue that one should keep those excuses to yourself...that's a fair argument.

But as I said, boxers are their own promoters as well...what I am hearing from Deontay as much as anything is 'Hey guys, I know I lost...but it was BS and here is why...definitely tune it to watch me the next time I fight someone, it will be different.'

Yeah I just can't be mad at the guy...not even a fan of his really...but he showed me something I liked vs Ortiz in the first fight, showed me a lot of heart...and showed me that again vs Fury...a lot of people would have found a way out before the stoppage...I commend him for that and have respect for him for that as a man.

yeah everyone makes excuses when they lose, just like Joshua did, oh wait thats right, he made no excuses at all, he said congratulations the better man on the night won, went away came up with a plan, trained to implement it and easily won a rematch.

I respect the heart he showed in the ring, everything after has been nothing short of embarrassing. By all means be a fan, back him to win the rematch whatever, but don't try and defend the indefensible.

[Boxing_1013]

yeah everyone makes excuses when they lose, just like Joshua did, oh wait thats right, he made no excuses at all, he said congratulations the better man on the night won, went away came up with a plan, trained to implement it and easily won a rematch.

I respect the heart he showed in the ring, everything after has been nothing short of embarrassing. By all means be a fan, back him to win the rematch whatever, but don't try and defend the indefensible.

I'm not even a fan of his...I'm more of a fan of Fury's...and picked Fury to win.

Yeah AJ did make excuses though...he just voiced in a different, more polished, gentlemanly way...but everyone makes excuses when they lose.

You could say it wasn't the same type of excuses as Wilder...that's fair...but yes still excuses...and who cares...any time you lose, you have to make excuses otherwise you are conceding that you can never beat that guy/team.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=fzLUc5ZvmEc&feature=emb_logo

The whole video above, for example.

2:55 in particular...talking about how he looked past Ruiz, towards his next fight which he thought would be with Wilder.

4:55 - 'everything it meant to Ruiz winning, is everything it didn't mean to me beating him' EXCUSES!! Come on man just keep it real

[PAC-BOY]

I had to grow to like Wilder. And did. Until this . This classifies what he is as a man and as a boxer. I dont care for AJ that much but he took his defeat like a man and went back to the basics and made a come back. respectfully.

[The plunger man]

Wilder is a bum and the desperation of the Americans to have a decent heavyweight fighter was the root cause of this.
Wilder was never good and will never be good and the Americans overlooked this fact and fed him cans to KO and got ****** in to the whole aura of it.
Technically wilder is a pile of dog**** and that’s never going to change.
Once again the brits own the richest prize in sport 💪

[Boxing_1013]

Wilder is a bum and the desperation of the Americans to have a decent heavyweight fighter was the root cause of this.
Wilder was never good and will never be good and the Americans overlooked this fact and fed him cans to KO and got ****** in to the whole aura of it.
Technically wilder is a pile of dog**** and that’s never going to change.
Once again the brits own the richest prize in sport 💪

So how highly do you rate Fury?

[Joe Beamish]

So how highly do you rate Fury?

Since so many fans of Fury are saying Wilder is a bum, I assume they think Fury isn’t much better.

[Boxing_1013]

Since so many fans of Fury are saying Wilder is a bum, I assume they think Fury isn’t much better.

Right...well said

[The plunger man]

So how highly do you rate Fury?

not that high and I don’t think fury beats Joshua.
Joshua will only get better now
And none of them can hold a candle to a Lennox Lewis.