Damn, imagine it was AJ giving Wilder those punches

[The Big Dunn]

It's horses for courses my man. Makes no sense to box on the outside with Wilder, especially when Joshua does his best work at mid- close range and Wilder has no inside game.

It makes sense when your chin has been exposed by a mid tier slovenly scrub who doesn't have anywhere near the power as Wilder.

I agree with you Wilder wouldn't be able to deal with AJ's inside game but at this point it would be foolish for AJ to risk losing if they fought by fighting like Fury did. IMO AJ would fight like he did against Ruiz in the 2nd fight and win by wide UD, something like Floyd over Canelo or Manny.

[deathofaclown]

Yeah but AJ wouldn’t have ring IQ and skill to set up those shots Fury did.

AJ v Wilder would be a cagey match and see who lands first. The fight would probably be a stinker for the most part. Also, AJ is a static target and that probably would play into Wilder’s hands.

So you can never look at one fight and say “imagine what X would have done if he landed those shots”. There’s way too many factors involved before it even gets to the point of landing those shots, that’s it’s not even worth saying.

[ShaneMosleySr]

Joshua’s power is incredibly overrated. I’m not even sure he hits harder than Tyson Fury. Maybe but it isn’t a foregone conclusion.

[deathofaclown]

It makes sense when your chin has been exposed by a mid tier slovenly scrub who doesn't have anywhere near the power as Wilder.

I agree with you Wilder wouldn't be able to deal with AJ's inside game but at this point it would be foolish for AJ to risk losing if they fought by fighting like Fury did. IMO AJ would fight like he did against Ruiz in the 2nd fight and win by wide UD, something like Floyd over Canelo or Manny.

The problem with AJ fighting Wilder like he did in the 2nd Ruiz fight is that Wilder is a much bigger and longer guy than Ruiz.

Fighting Wilder from the outside for 12 rounds is very difficult. For all his flaws, he has a great ability to spring into range and find the target. AJ couldn’t just move wherever he pleases against fighters of his size. Ruiz is a midget with small arms and if you don’t let him in range, he’s useless.

[DumpkinsPlus5]

Joshua doesn't have the awkwardness, twitchyness, or usage of feints in his arsenal to make Wilder second guess his offense to the extent that Fury did. I think Wilder would be less confused against Joshua, and therefore more comfortable shooting off his own offense. At this point, I don't think Joshua has the confidence to impose his will on Wilder.

[billeau2]

Wilder didn't prove he could get up from the floor like Ruiz and Klitschko did and win. So what's the difference?

Just admit that you were talking complete rubbish. Judging from yesterday, it's clear AJ would absolutely maul Wilder as well.

Really? See to me? I think Wilder proved that he could take a shot. Wilder's main problem was that he did not have the tools in his box to get his mojo back. He could not fight off his back leg, which would have given him more reaction time, more distance, while he reset himself.... He could not move much to respond to many attacks...Fury was looping his punches and many of them could have been rolled with if he had that skill. Wilder's problem was not that he could not take a punch, he did so remarkably well...His problem was, he does not know how to fight any other way than front foot, going forwards.

[The Big Dunn]

The problem with AJ fighting Wilder like he did in the 2nd Ruiz fight is that Wilder is a much bigger and longer guy than Ruiz.

Fighting Wilder from the outside for 12 rounds is very difficult. For all his flaws, he has a great ability to spring into range and find the target. AJ couldn’t just move wherever he pleases against fighters of his size. Ruiz is a midget with small arms and if you don’t let him in range, he’s useless.

ok, that is smart thinking on your part. While Wilder's reach is 2in shorter than Fury's its about the same as AJ , maybe a bit longer. Perhaps I should rethink this.

[billeau2]

It makes sense when your chin has been exposed by a mid tier slovenly scrub who doesn't have anywhere near the power as Wilder.

I agree with you Wilder wouldn't be able to deal with AJ's inside game but at this point it would be foolish for AJ to risk losing if they fought by fighting like Fury did. IMO AJ would fight like he did against Ruiz in the 2nd fight and win by wide UD, something like Floyd over Canelo or Manny.

I agree on this being a likely outcome. Wilder has fast feet but needs skills regarding distancing and timing. Honestly he would do well to do what Iron Mike did and watch tape of punchers... Mike really liked Dempsey, I actually think Wilder would do well to study Louis, because he is considered the most technically gifted puncher, but also Max Baer. Baer had a very similar situation as Wilder and there are still some alive today who would maintain that Baer had the hardest right ever. Much like Wilder Baer was considered a monster who could end you in the ring (he killed two men in the ring).

While Baer was not known for his technical chops, it is always good to see how others with similar gifts, use them in the ring.

[NaijaD]

It would have been even worse for Wilder!

Yes this is the logic Wilder's idiotic fans used for AJ

Haha love the bit in white text.... but this is something I said in another thread: No more fantasy victories for Wilder, all his fans laughed at the thought of pillow fisted Fury being able to knock him out.

For years we’ve had to listen to how Wilder beats AJ simply because he hits harder than the guys that hurt or stopped Joshua. So surely the reverse must be true now?

Fury isn’t the biggest punching or the most durable guy Wilder had faced yet he destroyed him, there’s more to boxing than being a godly puncher.

After Saturday night, I now see why Wilder avoided Wlad.... fighting someone the same size with KO power and far superior skills, Wilder would have probably being brutally outclassed.

[removed]

ok, that is smart thinking on your part. While Wilder's reach is 2in shorter than Fury's its about the same as AJ , maybe a bit longer. Perhaps I should rethink this.

He's right, you don't fight Deontay on the outside, because at some point he'll land a bomb on you.

Fury has laid the blueprint on how to fight Wilder, but you've got to a very brave and confident man to execute. I'm not convinced AJ has the balls to do it, he fought scared against Ruiz the second time, and he's already quit a fight against an opponent that is nowhere as threatening as a Fury or Wilder.