Damn, imagine it was AJ giving Wilder those punches

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  • LacedUp
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    Damn, imagine it was AJ giving Wilder those punches

    It would have been even worse for Wilder!

    Yes this is the logic Wilder's idiotic fans used for AJ
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    #2
    Originally posted by LacedUp
    It would have been even worse for Wilder!

    Yes this is the logic Wilder's idiotic fans used for AJ
    Let's not pretend AJ would've fought like Fury did. I think the Ruiz 2 fight is the blueprint for how he is going to fight the remainder of his career. Nothing wrong with that either. No reason for him to risk losing and give away $35-50 million paydays by fighting in a way that exposes his chin.

    The people who posted this about Wilder when AJ lost to Ruiz were only doing so because Wilder hist significantly harder than Ruiz, even though he isn't as skilled.

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    • chrisJS
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      Joshua-Wilder was always going to be who lands clean first. Joshua, being the more skilled, talented guy probably lands first. Both have shaky chins and stamina issues. I've always felt Wilder has a glass chin that was being protected. Joshua probably wins inside 2-3 rounds. Joshua loses to Fury too but not as badly as did Wilder.

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        #4
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        Let's not pretend AJ would've fought like Fury did. I think the Ruiz 2 fight is the blueprint for how he is going to fight the remainder of his career. Nothing wrong with that either. No reason for him to risk losing and give away $35-50 million paydays by fighting in a way that exposes his chin.

        The people who posted this about Wilder when AJ lost to Ruiz were only doing so because Wilder hist significantly harder than Ruiz, even though he isn't as skilled.
        AJ hits significantly harder than Fury, and isn't as skilled.

        Same difference.

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          #5
          Originally posted by LacedUp
          AJ hits significantly harder than Fury, and isn't as skilled.

          Same difference.
          AJ has also been brutally beaten and has given us a glimpse of how he will fight in the future, which doesn't suggest he would have the courage to fight the way Fury did against Wilder in the rematch.

          Additionally, Fury proved he could take a Wilder punch so he could execute the strategy used Sat night. AJ's chin is much weaker than Fury's IMO and that would mean he couldn't execute same strategy and be as successful.

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            #6
            Yep even Otto Wallin can KO Wilder now. He's finished!

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              #7
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              AJ has also been brutally beaten and has given us a glimpse of how he will fight in the future, which doesn't suggest he would have the courage to fight the way Fury did against Wilder in the rematch.

              Additionally, Fury proved he could take a Wilder punch so he could execute the strategy used Sat night. AJ's chin is much weaker than Fury's IMO and that would mean he couldn't execute same strategy and be as successful.
              Wilder didn't prove he could get up from the floor like Ruiz and Klitschko did and win. So what's the difference?

              Just admit that you were talking complete rubbish. Judging from yesterday, it's clear AJ would absolutely maul Wilder as well.

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                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                AJ has also been brutally beaten and has given us a glimpse of how he will fight in the future, which doesn't suggest he would have the courage to fight the way Fury did against Wilder in the rematch.
                It's horses for courses my man. Makes no sense to box on the outside with Wilder, especially when Joshua does his best work at mid- close range and Wilder has no inside game.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by LacedUp
                  Wilder didn't prove he could get up from the floor like Ruiz and Klitschko did and win. So what's the difference?

                  Just admit that you were talking complete rubbish. Judging from yesterday, it's clear AJ would absolutely maul Wilder as well.
                  I explained the difference-AJ isn't going to fight in a way that he puts Wilder on the floor.

                  This kind of logic is the exact thing you whined about for months. Now you're arguing for the exact same logic to be applied to Wilder/AJ that you felt was wrong to apply to Wilder/AJ.

                  I think AJ is the better over fighter and is more skilled than Wilder for sure. He likely boxes from the outside while protecting his chin for a UD win.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by LacedUp
                    AJ hits significantly harder than Fury, and isn't as skilled.

                    Same difference.
                    We dont actually know who hits harder but we do know that AJ hits straighter.

                    I wish people would watch that first knockdown in the Fury Wilder fight (the second fight). If you watch really carefully you will notice what does the damage with the punch: It has nothing to do with the hand... Fury makes certain he has his weight over his front leg which has the effect of bringing his weight into the blow. This is textbook heavy hands hitting at work. If Fury does not have his weight over that leg, the blow is not significant. Fury seems to know this and to have trained to get his weight out in front of the blow. Ditto for that head snapping jab Fury executes. What makes it so powerful is the extension of his arm and his weight coming forwards.

                    My point is that Fury hits with heavy hands and his punches loop a bit to allow him to make that transfer. AJ hits with speed and power and straight to the target. His jab is also a fast jab that depends more on speed for effect. Technically he should be able to beat Fury to the punch, all other things being equal. Of course... this is a prepostorous scenario lol, but that is what AJ should train to do.

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