Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz Warns Andy Ruiz: I'm No Joshua - Fight Me!

[Slimpack]

Ortiz hasn`t fought anybody good except Wilder twice, we know how he finished. Ruiz showed no respect to fans coming totally out of shape in Joshua rematch. This two guys own a lot to boxing fans. Ortiz must prove he is actually good and fight and beat somebody decent, Ruiz for example. Ruiz must prove he actually still trains boxing.

I don`t care about this guys in championship debates anymore, I just want them to fight each other.

I agree they are not A level fighters but they are still very good & decent HWs.

In respect to Ruiz vs AJ 2, Ruiz trained really hard for the fight, but just didn't expect AJ to be mobile for 12rounds. He confessed to at least trained for three months (which is enough time to train for a championship fight). I believe he came in heavy to have more KO power (just like Fury did presently for the 2nd fight against Wilder). Perhaps he underestimated AJ having beaten him once. All the excuses of over-partying & not having trained well are all lies and unnecessary. Ortiz on the other hand was an overhyped job who thought he was an A level fighter. He lived in the world of his own until he fought Wilder. Despite all these, they are both good boxers to me. Any fighter that take them lightly will pay dearly for it.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

I agree they are not A level fighters but they are still very good & decent HWs.

In respect to Ruiz vs AJ 2, Ruiz trained really hard for the fight, but just didn't expect AJ to be mobile for 12rounds. He confessed to at least trained for three months (which is enough time to train for a championship fight). I believe he came in heavy to have more KO power (just like Fury did presently for the 2nd fight against Wilder). Perhaps he underestimated AJ having beaten him once. All the excuses of over-partying & not having trained well are all lies and unnecessary. Ortiz on the other hand was an overhyped job who thought he was an A level fighter. He lived in the world of his own until he fought Wilder. Despite all these, they are both good boxers to me. Any fighter that take them lightly will pay dearly for it.

What are you talking about? Ruiz said that he partied for 3 straight months. He showed up to training late and wasnt listening to his trainer. His trainer said Ruiz pretty much trained himself for that fight.

[Tecnoworld]

Yeah joshua was disgraceful winning every round. He should have done rock em sock em like u all wanted and risk getting kod so u would all get the result u wanted.

May I say: if all the fighters boxed like aj did on that night, I would NOT like boxing as a sport.

[Tecnoworld]

Andy wasn't a disgrace he was over weight but I didn't notice fatigue or sluggishness, it wasn't really a factor. Andy simply got out boxed by the better man but doesn't mean he's a disgrace. Andy at least had the Gaul to fight AJ which is more then I can say for some heavy weights.

I was referring to Joshua not Ruiz. Ortiz-Ruiz would be much a better fight than Ruiz-AJ II.

[shaheed1972]

AJ the only one who offered a fight. But everyone else screams how old he is and never tries to fight him.

Wyte? He the main guy who ducked Ortiz.

Not entirely true. Whyte actually offered the fight to Ortiz to headline a PPV card in the UK for more money. Ortiz wanted the fight on Wilder's undercard for less money. Whyte turned that down.

[joseph5620]

Everybody talks bad about Ortiz and his age but you never see anyone jumping at the chance to scrap with the old man

Exactly lol.

[joseph5620]

Who are the "no one" you talking about? Feel free to provide the names and source to back up your claim. We all know what Ortiz camp said when offered the chance to fight AJ in replacement of Miller. Ortiz is very good but he is an over hyped boxer that can be beaten by most top ten HWs. A fit Ruiz, Whyte or Parker take him before the championship rounds.

That means absolutely nothing until they fight Ortiz and prove it. All signs point to Ruiz is avoiding the fight. Whyte didn't want a fight with Ortiz either. If it was that easy they would fight him.

[joseph5620]

Not entirely true. Whyte actually offered the fight to Ortiz to headline a PPV card in the UK for more money. Ortiz wanted the fight on Wilder's undercard for less money. Whyte turned that down.

Ortiz didn't turn down either fight with Whyte. At least not publicly.

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/4...-dillian-whye/

[BoxOfficer]

What are you talking about? Ruiz said that he partied for 3 straight months. He showed up to training late and wasnt listening to his trainer. His trainer said Ruiz pretty much trained himself for that fight.

And what did he and his trainer say before the fight? You don't cherrypick what to believe.

[Jazzo1234]

I believe it has something to do about the offer Hearn try to give them they wanted more at first but then they change their mind accepted the offer but then Hearn said you had your chance we're looking for somebody else that's why Ortiz didn't get to fight Joshua