James Toney (1991) vs Canelo Alvarez (2019) at middelweight who wins and why

[STREET CLEANER]

I call Canelo the new James Toney. Difficult to fight and I would not bet against him.

If Toney was in top shape he was unbeatable. He had a lot of sloppy training habits and deprived himself of better wins.

One thing though he did lose twice to Griffith which was a short counterpuncher.

[UNBIASED BOXING]

James Toney.

[therealpugilist]

Yeah neither would give an inch. Would be a great matchup stylistically.

probably be one of those fights id watch over and over because of the skill and violence level like barrera vs marquez, toney v mccallum

[IronDanHamza]

James Toney the king of fantasy fights. In real life not so much.

In 1992 in real life James Toney lost to Dave Tiberi.....yet on here in fantasy land he destroys Canelo with ease

[QueensburyRules]

two of the slickest middleweights and best counter punchers ever, great chins many similarities....Toney had the edge in speed and power was a bit more mobile but i see a nip and tuck fight similar to Toneys fights with McCallum, who wins and why?

- -U fail to do a nip & tuck on TwoTons blubber.

[Boxing_1013]

]Canelo isnt busy enough[/B] in my opinion and also Toney was slicker than himself...Middleweight toney was a puncher had some high paced fights

i think it would be competitive like most of canelos fights vs top guys i just think Toney does a few things better and that will make him have the edge

At 24 Toney outboxed Mike McCallum who is known for his skills and bodypunching

the bold is basically my issue in every Canelo fight...he does enough good stuff to get a lot of credit, but in general isn't active enough for me in most fights to really dominate as much as some suggest.

Unfortunately if Canelo fought anyone...you would have a contingent of his fans who would see his work and give him the rounds, and if the fights are in Vegas, Canelo likely wins.

Straight up though...I think Toney-Canelo is a great fight though...I would have that one as pretty even...Canelo a bit more polished than Toney but Toney a bit more rugged and probably more active...great great fight.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

probably be one of those fights id watch over and over because of the skill and violence level like barrera vs marquez, toney v mccallum

I was gonna compare it to Toney-McCallum myself, it would be one of those technical wars.

[IronDanHamza]

the bold is basically my issue in every Canelo fight...he does enough good stuff to get a lot of credit, but in general isn't active enough for me in most fights to really dominate as much as some suggest.

Unfortunately if Canelo fought anyone...you would have a contingent of his fans who would see his work and give him the rounds, and if the fights are in Vegas, Canelo likely wins.

Straight up though...I think Toney-Canelo is a great fight though...I would have that one as pretty even...Canelo a bit more polished than Toney but Toney a bit more rugged and probably more active...great great fight.

Sounds a lot like James Toney.

[IronDanHamza]

A focused Toney is an ATG. Problem with Toney is Toney, only reason he got beat.

Toney is a level above Canelo. Toney beats both Triple G and Canelo at 160.

James Toney at 160 lost to Dave Tiberi and arguably lost to Sanderline Williams and Merqui Sosa and got a gift against Reggie Johnson.

Toney's only impressive win at 160 was Micheal Nunn and that was a fight he was getting schooled in for the vast majority of it.

He could easily lose to both Canelo and GGG. I don't see anything from his actual career to suggest he has an easy night with either of them.

[Disturbed]

Incredible fight, haven't even thought of it as a fantasy match but man, that would have been a sight to see. Two elites going at it, with fantastic movement and counters. Both had some great combinations and early 90's Toney's handspeed was something else