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  • SUBZER0ED
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    #41
    Canelo is a very good fighter, that much is true. But a great fighter who should be able to pick and choose his next opponent? If you really want to gauge just how "great" Canelo is, consider how many of his opponents of late were actually thought to be a real threat to beat him. I can think of only one; GGG. So really, how great does beating ONE real threat make a fighter?

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    • Robbie Barrett
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      #42
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      I've only seen confirmation of an andrade offer, not Canelo. An offer allegedly made in 2019 has no bearing on 2020.

      Well if they aren't going back to him, as you posted, how can they then "step up", as you asked? Canelo offered fights to Hearn guys and they rejected them. They are blocking fights from happening.

      Dazn isn't making the best fights. Instead we are getting GGG/Szermerta, Andrade/Keeler, Pulev/AJ and Canelo/???. That has nothing to do with PBC.
      Canelo reached out for a fight and was ignored. It's now on Charlo and PBC to step up and say they want it.

      Canelo has offered them fights and they're negotiating. Big difference from just turning down an offer with no negotiation, like Charlo and PBC.

      DAZN want the fights. You already acknowledged it. But now you're trying to flip flop and blame DAZN.

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #43
        Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
        Canelo reached out for a fight and was ignored. It's now on Charlo and PBC to step up and say they want it.

        Canelo has offered them fights and they're negotiating. Big difference from just turning down an offer with no negotiation, like Charlo and PBC.

        DAZN want the fights. You already acknowledged it. But now you're trying to flip flop and blame DAZN.
        So you have no proof. Just as I thought. You also refused to answer why ODH went to the media after everyone rejected the offers except Charlo, who he waited a year to tell the media. He also never mentioned it during media criticism for Canelo emeritus/franchise designation.

        You know damn well there was no offer to Charlo but will believe anything against PBC. Is what it is.

        Hearn rejected the Smith offer. They might be negotiating with BJS but they were negotiating with Murata and that fell through. Wake us when an opponent is announced.

        DAZN isn't making the fights, that is all that matters. I posted they want Canelo/GGG 3. Make it for May 2020 . The other top fights they aren't making. Instead-GGG/bum, Andrade/Bum Canelo/Brit SMW if he takes a low offer which is TBD.

        Yeah, great for the sport.

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        • Robbie Barrett
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          #44
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          So you have no proof. Just as I thought. You also refused to answer why ODH went to the media after everyone rejected the offers except Charlo, who he waited a year to tell the media. He also never mentioned it during media criticism for Canelo emeritus/franchise designation.

          You know damn well there was no offer to Charlo but will believe anything against PBC. Is what it is.

          Hearn rejected the Smith offer. They might be negotiating with BJS but they were negotiating with Murata and that fell through. Wake us when an opponent is announced.

          DAZN isn't making the fights, that is all that matters. I posted they want Canelo/GGG 3. Make it for May 2020 . The other top fights they aren't making. Instead-GGG/bum, Andrade/Bum Canelo/Brit SMW if he takes a low offer which is TBD.

          Yeah, great for the sport.
          You said they had no power to force the fights but you are now blaming them. FFS just stop fli flopping.

          Lets talk about Charlo turning down Andrade too shall we? PBC fighters are turning down career high paydays all over the place.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
            You said they had no power to force the fights but you are now blaming them. FFS just stop fli flopping.

            Lets talk about Charlo turning down Andrade too shall we? PBC fighters are turning down career high paydays all over the place.
            I posted they had no power to make Canelo fight anyone. I didn't post they had no power to make the other fights. There is no way you thought otherwise so stop the BS.

            DAZN can force GGG and andrade to fight each other once Canelo refuses to fight both. They will not because they want to save GGG/canelo 3 as long as possible. If andrade beats GGG that ruins that fight.

            Of course Charlo turned down Andrade. He knows it just a PR stunt to divert from DAZN not giving Andrade the in house unification fights that are far more lucrative than a Charlo fight.

            The question is why wont dazn make the in house unification fight? I think I know why. Why do you think they will not?

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            • Robbie Barrett
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              #46
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              I posted they had no power to make Canelo fight anyone. I didn't post they had no power to make the other fights. There is no way you thought otherwise so stop the BS.

              DAZN can force GGG and andrade to fight each other once Canelo refuses to fight both. They will not because they want to save GGG/canelo 3 as long as possible. If andrade beats GGG that ruins that fight.

              Of course Charlo turned down Andrade. He knows it just a PR stunt to divert from DAZN not giving Andrade the in house unification fights that are far more lucrative than a Charlo fight.

              The question is why wont dazn make the in house unification fight? I think I know why. Why do you think they will not?
              They can't make the fights. DAZN isn't a promoter like PBC. Golovkin has a guaranteed contract too (massive mistake) he doesnt have to take any fight he doesn't want. Which is why he's chosen a bum for his next, no way does DAZN want that bum fight. How about you use a bit of sense? If it's a PR move then Charlo should accept the offer instead of making himself look bad.

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                #47
                Originally posted by j0zef
                That's some revisionist history right there. Floyd took 33% of the purse vs. ODH, which ended up being 3x larger than his previous career high.

                This is no different.
                ???
                That's my point, it is no different. Floyd accepted the offer. Still waiting for someone to accept Canelo's.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                  They can't make the fights. DAZN isn't a promoter like PBC. Golovkin has a guaranteed contract too (massive mistake) he doesnt have to take any fight he doesn't want. Which is why he's chosen a bum for his next, no way does DAZN want that bum fight. How about you use a bit of sense? If it's a PR move then Charlo should accept the offer instead of making himself look bad.
                  BS. DAZN and Hearn can make fights if they choose to. They aren't choosing to for financial reasons yet you will not call them on it. Hearn is the promoter and has a stake in dazn. Stop giving him cover just because he is a British cuck.

                  I explained why he isn't fighting Andrade-same reason Canelo and GGG are not-andrade is a tough southpaw that makes for an ugly fight even if you happen to beat him. Charlo wins, the fight sucks, and then Canelo says no fight because he is "boring".

                  Lets be real-he already gave up the belt rather than fight Charlo (notice you again didn't answer why ODH said nothing about Charlo allegedly turning down the offer when the media reported on the emeritus/franchise move) you think he will be willing to fight either Charlo or Andrade if either wins? IMO no because either will have beat the real "boogieman" of the division.

                  So stop playing this dumb as game of slurp the fellow brit cuck and hold Hearn and dazn accountable for GGG/szermerta and Andrade/keeler.

                  PBC made Spence/Porter unification (another point you avoided) in huse with no problem. Dazn can do same.
                  Last edited by The Big Dunn; 02-18-2020, 01:35 PM.

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                    #49


                    “Forget about being a fighter,” Kellerman said, “if I was a manager and someone came to me with an Andrade fight I’d be like ‘eh, pass.’ And we’re talking about GGG — let’s call out some names — Canelo, and these dudes fight on the same distribution outfit, no excuses. But also like the Charlo brothers to Daniel Jacobs, there are a lot very talented guys in and around the division — no one wants it with Andrade. That doesn’t mean he’ll beat them all, it just means they don’t think it’s worth it. What he is supposed to do?”

                    At least Max is willing to talk about everyone not wanting it with Andrade, rather than just blame PBC.

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                    • Thuglife Nelo
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                      #50
                      NSB is funny.

                      One minute people are saying BJS and Smith deserve more when they’re sure those fights didn’t get made...

                      Then when rumors circulate that it’s about to be finalized...

                      “BJS has judges against him. Didn’t look to good last fight...”

                      Then it’s “Canelo should fight Bivol at 168...”

                      Then if Canelo were to win:

                      “Canelo needs to see him at 175...”

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