Comments Thread For: Whyte Warns Wilder: I'll Release WBC Documents - Embarrass You!

[Skinny kinny]

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For he record I think wilder would win if they fought, and he would be arguably the best name on his current cv but as it stands ..

Wilder has so far ducked:

Klitschko
Povetkin
Martin
Parker
Joshua
Whyte

I don’t think Whyte has ducked anyone?


Best opponents beaten:

Wilder:
Ortiz, Stiverne, Brezeale, Washington, molina

Whyte:
Parker, Chisora, Rivas, Helenius, Browne

Ducked people
Klitschko and his people said no ( and they were wilders people)
Povetkin? Povetkin pops dirty so wilder is ducking?
Martin? Nobody in the top 50 has ever ducked Martin. Hearn outbid Haymon for the belt.
Parker? Parker came to a wilder fight and came to an Aj fight. He openly said I get more money for AJ and it’s an easier fight. Wilder had nothing to do with it. Parker didn’t really duck either
Joshua? Please explain this to me. You better not say anything about DAZN either
Whyte? Yeah sure

[Citizen Koba]

I just showed you other people use it that way. Do you see any regional champions listed on the links I provided? No. Just world champions.

Aha. Where are we going with this? I already acknowledged that you are correct that Dillian is technically a world champion. I already laughed at your cleverness in pointing out that Dillian's comments could actually be pointed at himself. What exactly else is it that you were hoping to hear?

Do I really need to labour the point that whilst technically he is a World Champion the vast majority of posters here - and I can only imagine boxing fans as a whole - do not see him as such nor generally regard the term 'World Champion' to be refering to interims but only to full champions and maybe Super Champions.

You think if I asked the question 'who is the current WBA Heavyweight World Champion' most boxing fans are gonna scratch their heads and say "well, mate, that there's a trick question, cos there's actually three of 'em, see. Joshua, Charr and Bryan', no matter how technically accurate that answer might be?

In the conveyance of information - especially when you're talking to Dillian Whyte and not a Lawyer or a Scientist, lack of precision in language is absolutely commonplace and it's normal for us to make allowances for this and assume certain meanings from certain words which may not be technically accurate. This is what I mean by 'common usage' in my earlier reply to you.

I mean sure, man, pedantry I understand but are you genuinely trying to say you don't comprehend the point I've been trying to make or you just digging your heels in for some reason?

Shall we put it to a poll and see what the consensus is? If I say ask the YES/NO question Would you consider Dillian Whyte to be a Heavyweight World Champion? Or maybe.. 'when you hear the Term World champion do you undertand that as including interim Champions?' I mean could be I'm waaay off point here, man, I make mistakes all the time.

[Skinny kinny]

You said he’s a world champion that’s a lie . Whyte defeated no champion ,was Mariuz Wach a champion?

If you go back to Wilders history Whyte has a point and argument ,have you ever seen a fighter win a title and a manager interrupts the interview post fight and say he won’t fight the other champion he’s a baby prospect ,that’s intent on stopping a fight . Wilder has a history cherry picking and getting guys out of the ring two years as an appointed fight ,that’s absurd .


You went around Breazeale wasn’t ranked by transnational so once again you bring up the other rankings , I didn’t say Wilder wast highly ranked what does that have to do with anything ? Ha


I’ve watched boxing much longer then you ,sorry but I can’t think of a guy that’s been more protected ,picks fights with health issues and waited 3 years outside Ortiz best win a guy he didn’t even fight iand rusty fighters and so on.

I hope it comes to an end on the 22nd because some of actually want undisputed at we won’t get that with Wilder who runs away from career high paydays but he’s not protected ?

Can you explain to me why the wbc would give a .....k about something called the transgender or transnational rankings. They have the belt it’s their belt. They decide their rankings and mandatories just like all the other sanctioning bodies. All the fighters and all of us including you know this. Breazelle had the spot because the wbc said so but Breazelle’s thirsty ass would have fought Whyte for it.

[Skinny kinny]

This is a disgraceful post! So, it is only Joshua that has the money to buy belts; what stopped Wilder from buying belts? Is he a pauper? It is not correct to discredit the achievements of a fighter because of fanship. This is wh is making boxing unpopular in America

At that time Joshua had more money or in actuality showtime and al just spent less on wilder. Showtime thought they were going to end up with both of them. Haymon had just gotten wilder and he didn’t start spending money on wilder until Stiverne 2. Wilder the Charlo’s Spence Danny Garcia were actually golden boy fighters.

It’s okay that Hearn outbid Haymon for Parker and Martin. AJ still had to win and he did

[Skinny kinny]

Wilder has never volunteered to take a fight with a prepared fighter he thought was a threat,Povetkin was a mandatory . That’s an entire different situation ,but I didn’t see Wilder going back like he did to Ortiz when Povetkin was cleared and actually sued team Wilder I believe and won a lawsuit or something ?

No one ever claimed Whyte as the boogeyman that was Ortiz who doesn’t have a resume like Whytes to compare, you guys just want to prop him up because Wilder defeated him but really , Pulev, Whyte and Povetkin are more proven these are facts .

Not more proven, they just fight on the British/European scene so you like and respect them more

[Skinny kinny]

I read it - you are saying Whyte ducked Ortiz to fight Parker? Parker has fought better opponents than Ortiz in recent years and isn't 40 years old. He almost beat Whyte. Some say he did

Er... And Ortiz himself said his manager wouldn't let him fight in the UK.

Also Ortiz and his team are proven liars - as shown by the Joshua offer after Miller pulled out. Why believe them?

We now know Ortiz couldn’t take the Aj fight because he had already agreed to fight wilder for at least 7 million. Ortiz could not get out of the deal unless it was for more than 7 million. Guess what Eddie offered ....... his standard offer for all American fighters he’s recruiting...... 7 million just enough to not get the fight.

[Skinny kinny]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transn...Rankings_Board

Thanks. Have heard of them a couple of times. Noble idea and noble effort. However everything ends up biased and what can they offer to make fighters or sanctioning bodies respect them. Right now they are slightly more credible than the people in this forum . Maybe

[Skinny kinny]

LOL Wilder is running harder from Joshua than he is from Whyte. I know you cant believe Wilder would be scared of either of these 2 losers but hes running and has been running for a good couple of years now.

Based on what?

[maguirre]

So what is about Whyte that makes Wilder not want anything to do with him and he'd rather fight lesser names like Arreola, Szpilka, Duhaupas, Stiverne, Washington, etc?

I don't get the ducking.

[Skinny kinny]

Victim mentality. Your propaganda culture has you all building up Wilder as your version of Gerry Cooney. Who else besides Wilder do you even got at Heavyweight? Nobody. He is your great black hope.

Victims of who? There have been 3 uk heavyweight champions. Fitz Simmons in the 1890s. AJ and Bruno for about 5 minutes in the 1990s. Lennox was a Canadian Jamaican who let the uk claim him to be nice. Dubois will win a title one day. And that is in 130 years of the sport you invented. 1/2 the worlds top heavy weights are from here or based here right now. Are you guys claiming Fury now or dissing fury to Ireland now. It seems to change every week.