I think punching power can be taught

[sanluisjerzy]

I must say how impressed I am how civil this thread has been.

[IronDanHamza]

You can improve your punching power.

But you'll never punch like a Deontay Wilder unless you were born that natural gift.

[Fat_asian]

Hey man I've sparred with a girl who hits like a man. I was feeling all woozy thru my guard. Then you have Juan Diaz, the reincarrnate of iron Mike Tyson who puts EVERYTHING into his shots but has pillows for fists. No way to teach him that.

[Commie]

Genetics technique PEDs
From Most to least important

[hugh grant]

You can be taught to punch harder. But punches like wilder areborn.just like bolts and gatlins

[CubanGuyNYC]

You can educate and wisen, but you can’t create genius. You can teach technique and work on pitching for years, but you can’t manufacture a 100 MPH fastball. You can train perfectly, eat right and gorge yourself with steroids, but none of it will give you a 600 lb bench press. Punching power is no different.

[Marchegiano]

It's a pet peeve of mine. "Power is something you are born with" is just super unscientific. No physicist would tell you such nonsense. A man of equal measure in all regards as another has the exact same potential energy, period, stop the nonsense.

Power in boxing somes from solid kinematic chains. Where all else is equal he with the most solid kinematic chain will hit hardest. Period, same mass, same velocity, same trajectory, one hit harder; kinematic chain is what explains that. Only kinematic chains can explain that and situation can be trained. You can change a man's form and that is all this comes down to.

Far as " You can train power but you can not train to be deontay wilder" kinda posts, that's true. What's also true is if you've average reflexes we can make them better but you're never going to be Juan Manuel. If you're average speed we can train speed but you'll never be Patterson or Tyson or Ali. If you don't have a natural inclining you will always be behind, in that regard to the man who does.....Power is not special in this, and no one ever points out how speed can't be trained or caveats the training with but you never be a great speedster.

You can teach a man to think more but if he started out a dumbass you should not expect him to be Mayweather. Seems like a obvious statement right? No one ever says that because it's such a duh, but, with a feather fist it seem a needed caveat because boxing has a weird issue with power and just power.

That said let me go ahead and breakdown where 'science' in boxing came from and why it has little to no explanation for power.

Boxing began as sword and shield training and for millennia it followed sword and shield techniques.

The English revitalize boxing and add broadsword first, and then later, 1780s, brough fencing in.

sword and shield is relative to the old ways, just because fencing was brought in in the 1780s does not mean it was adopted so quickly. It was well hated actually.

The man who brought fencing into boxing became the HW champion and explained it was his science that brought him victory and title. It's the 1780s.....a time when it's cool to talk about science. He was not scientific he was just using fencing to bubble sword and shield as fencers do. He made his puncher based opposition look like amateurs like a good boxer should do to a puncher. That was his backing for 'science'

He has no explanation for power because his training and techniques do not focus on power.....fencing remember, no power in the rapier....their is power in the gladius.

Mendoza's boxing makes more money, keeps him safe from harm, and makes him look smart, so of course the black folks who were banned from champion boxing for so many eons flocked to learn Mendoza School. Richmond, Molyneaux, Sutton, etc, all Mendoza fighters, Richmond trained directly by Mendoza, Moly by Richmond, and so forth.

For about a hundred year white boxing focuses on sword and shield - and broadsword techniques more than fencing techniques while black boxers have the opposite focus. Outside of of incidents here and there, there is no mass movement of boxers defeating punchers in the ring and so the reasoning behind the style is not seen on the surface of things.

Corbett learns black boxing, Mendoza boxing, and brings it into the white ranks a hundred plus years after Mendoza and finally boxing defense is integrated into boxing but would take another 50 years before culture would allow a majority fan base who did not think boxers were cowards compared to punchers....a sentiment still held by many but not majority.

See how there is NO science this whole journey? Because there is no science in boxing. Power is not something you are just born with, it is trained and can be trained. Most people today seek boxing to box not to be a puncher....power is not something that was ever a focus of the boxer and to this day their 'power' training is ****.

You can not posture like a puncher and box. You can not posture like a boxer and punch. Period, pick a lane. I can go in more depth if y'all like.

[hugh grant]

Even if wilder didn't train hed be hitting harder than fury. Even if h ed never laced up a glove h ed ko people.
Punche rs are born. That's why wilder thinks he's chosen one. But wilder can't box like fury. Fury are born not made also

[DuckAdonis]

If you can name some examples of pillow hands being turned into devastating punchers later in their career I'd believe you

[bballchump11]

Of course it can be taught. Most of your power comes from technique. A small portion comes from conditioning while the other part comes from genetics.