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  • #51
    Originally posted by Tecnoworld View Post
    Is there a punch measuring machine like the one in rocky iv?
    I think there is but how are you going to get all the old and dead heavyweights to use it so their stats could be used too?

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Mushroom View Post
      Umm no we’re not ******. A good way of judging fighters power is by listening to fighter who have sparred them. They all same the same thing- wilder is the hardest puncher they’ve ever been in with. There’s a really good interview with a guy who supposedly dropped AJ in sparring. He’s from Philadelphia I believe. He rated wilders power 10/10 above Klitschko (who he also had sparred) and significantly harder than Joshua.

      There’s no knowing for certain but he’s definitely up there for sure
      Look up the video of Haye constantly dropping Wilder in sparring. So if Wilder is the hardest puncher ever, and Haye is toying with him, does that make Haye the best heavyweight ever? Or the hardest puncher too? If the Lakers of this year only played under .500 teams and they blew them all out, then they would look like the best team ever too right? Especially if the Bucks or the Clippers offered to play them and the Lakers said "no, you guys aren't worthy" hahaha. That's basically what Wilder has done his entire career, avoid the best out there and yet say he is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Wilder fans will quote anything that helps their case with him, and yet completely overlook anything that is starring them right in the face, even if it's a stone cold fact. Like the fact that Wilder turned down 120 million and unification. Or the fact that he has been a champion for years and avoided mandatories this long.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by OldTerry View Post
        I think there is but how are you going to get all the old and dead heavyweights to use it so their stats could be used too?
        Even if he's old and untrained, I'd like to see Foreman's performance. I guess he can still be about 80% of his original power.

        Of course, no way you can test deceased fighters.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by MDPopescu View Post
          Did Wilder ever fight anybody like those mentioned above?
          Which is why I said I don't think he's a better fighter, Tyson in particular would be a really bad style for wilder imo.

          But you can't take away from the obvious, the way he sleeps sturdy fighters like Ortiz with one punch isn't something Tyson did.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by VislorTurlough View Post
            The matchroom interns on this site won’t stand for this! How dare a Brit say something complementary about Wilder! We must bash him and raise up disgraced mediocrity cheat Whyte and praise our Lord and master Eddie. Praise him! Praise him!
            Lol....you are so insecured.

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            • #56
              I've been saying this for ages. Wilder hits harder than any HW I've ever seen. People say George Foreman - but he took loads of punches to finish off some of his opponents. I think they just watched that Ali documentary.

              I will say that Wilder really does go for it with his shots. Whereas a lot of other HW's are a lot more cautious and don't put everything in. But still he hits harder anyway.

              Wilder is clearly not the best fighter because he's been protected his whole career - don't forget he has been fighting 5 years longer than AJ, and he still hardly fights anyone in the top 10 who isn't retired or 40.

              Wilder needs to prove he is the best now. It's now or never

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              • #57
                People are so ******.

                Your power is not dependent on your competition because power is power.

                It's like saying "Usain Bolt isn't the fastest runner ever because he never raced Jesse Owens or Carl Lewis", even though the numbers that are objective say otherwise.

                The best way to tell who's the most powerful is the guys who've been in the ring with them.

                Notice, everybody who's been in a ring with him, the Klitschkos, AJ, and whoever ALL say Wilder hits harder.

                That's all you need to know.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Tyistall View Post
                  Look up the video of Haye constantly dropping Wilder in sparring. So if Wilder is the hardest puncher ever, and Haye is toying with him, does that make Haye the best heavyweight ever? Or the hardest puncher too? If the Lakers of this year only played under .500 teams and they blew them all out, then they would look like the best team ever too right? Especially if the Bucks or the Clippers offered to play them and the Lakers said "no, you guys aren't worthy" hahaha. That's basically what Wilder has done his entire career, avoid the best out there and yet say he is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Wilder fans will quote anything that helps their case with him, and yet completely overlook anything that is starring them right in the face, even if it's a stone cold fact. Like the fact that Wilder turned down 120 million and unification. Or the fact that he has been a champion for years and avoided mandatories this long.
                  Which mandatories has he avoided because the last one was breazeale??

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Robertthebruce View Post
                    Which mandatories has he avoided because the last one was breazeale??
                    Wow...Whyte...and it's been for years now. And Hearn has offered Wilder 3 times his highest purse to fight Whyte and he has refused. And don't give me that steroids crap either because both Ortiz and Fury were caught on steroids and Wilder fought both with no problem

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Tecnoworld View Post
                      Even if he's old and untrained, I'd like to see Foreman's performance. I guess he can still be about 80% of his original power.

                      Of course, no way you can test deceased fighters.
                      Foreman was very powerful and maybe did hit as hard as Wilder, hard to say for sure. I am pretty sure a Prime Foreman would stop a prime Deontay Wilder based on two things. One - Foreman was a much more complete fighter and Two - Foreman definitely had a better chin than Wilder.

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