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  • Vinnykin
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    #21
    Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
    You don't have to throw your opponent about to be stronger. Further, what fight of Fury's demonstrates his inside strength?

    The Duhappas fight comes to mind for Wilder inside work. From a strength perspective.
    A 215lb man can not bully Fury inside...... just stop. Fury is known as one of the top guys inside. He can protect an injury as shown in his last fight, stayed on his chest as he couldn't see.

    Duhaupas fight had no fighting inside.... also that opponent had no time to train, 5 weeks (common with Wilder opponents) another sandbag, not even British level.

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    • kafkod
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      #22
      Originally posted by Vinnykin
      How do you define "slugging it out"?

      In my head - slugging it out has been come-forward, pressure, inside fighting.... and is a well-used term in boxing for that style.

      You say he shouldn't slug it out but then say he should?

      I have been saying things like "put it on" and "slug it out" etc and people have called me crazy, saying that's a one-way ticket to get KO'd...... but I believe Fury is far more skilled than Wilder in all aspects of boxing apart from being explosive at distance..... so "slugging it out" is the best tactic IMO.....

      I do agree though, despite the maybe differing definitions, that taking away distance for his one-punch is the best tactic.
      By "slug it out" I mean stand in front of Wilder and exchange punches. He doesn't want to be doing that. He should use footwork and angles to get in close without getting hit clean, then impose his size and weight on Wilder on the inside, push him around and bully him.

      Fury can throw effective, short punches at close range, including sneaky uppercuts. That's what I'd like to see him doing in this fight. If he bullies Wilder, Wilder will get angry and emotional, waste energy, and give Fury openings to land clean on him.
      Last edited by kafkod; 01-24-2020, 08:21 PM.

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      • Vinnykin
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        #23
        Originally posted by kafkod
        By "slug it out" I mean stand in front of Wilder and exchange punches. He doesn't want to be doing that. He should use footwork and angles to get in close without getting hit clean, then impose his size and weight on Wilder on the inside, push him around and bully him.

        Fury can throw effective, short punches at close range, including sneaky uppercuts. That's what I'd like to see him doing in this fight.
        I agree.... but I still think Fury is better mid-range slugging it out as you say........ the only way Wilder can hurt or connect with Fury is from the outside, where Fury will be jabbing and dancing.

        Can we just boil this down to Fury staying out of the danger zone of Wilders right hand..... and slug it out with him inside and mid-range?

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          #24
          Originally posted by Vinnykin
          I agree.... but I still think Fury is better mid-range slugging it out as you say........ the only way Wilder can hurt or connect with Fury is from the outside, where Fury will be jabbing and dancing.

          Can we just boil this down to Fury staying out of the danger zone of Wilders right hand..... and slug it out with him inside and mid-range?
          That's what I mean. Wilder is not a power puncher at close and mid range. He needs space to move forward with his long right hand and extend it fully. Fury can take Wilder's power away by denying him space, then mess him around and bully him on the inside. Get him angry and frustrated, then capitalise.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
            You don't have to throw your opponent about to be stronger. Further, what fight of Fury's demonstrates his inside strength?

            The Duhappas fight comes to mind for Wilder inside work. From a strength perspective.
            Cuningham, Chisora, and Hammer spring to mind. He beat the crap out of Del Boy on the inside, as well at range with his jab, and decked Hammer with a sneaky, close range uppercut that he never saw coming.

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              #26
              Last time I checked , Ben D. Is not Stewart , Cus D. Or Eddie Futch . Great motivator for Tyson comeback but he needs next level trainer guess will see .

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                #27
                "He knows my family history and my bloodlines"

                Forget what I can do, but look to whom I'm related. Nepotism in a nutshell.

                In case anyone was missing the connection to Emmanuel Steward, Javan Hill changed his name.

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                • Ake-Dawg
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Vinnykin
                  A 215lb man can not bully Fury inside...... just stop. Fury is known as one of the top guys inside. He can protect an injury as shown in his last fight, stayed on his chest as he couldn't see.

                  Duhaupas fight had no fighting inside.... also that opponent had no time to train, 5 weeks (common with Wilder opponents) another sandbag, not even British level.
                  Hmmmm seems like you didn't watch that fight. Also....Fury is not known as one of the best inside fighters. Where did you get that from?

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                  • Vinnykin
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Monty Fisto
                    "He knows my family history and my bloodlines"

                    Forget what I can do, but look to whom I'm related. Nepotism in a nutshell.

                    In case anyone was missing the connection to Emmanuel Steward, Javan Hill changed his name.
                    Just watched Akkad on Youtube going on about nepotism.

                    The belief of people that family, race, religion of people that came before has anything to do with you as an individual is truly astonishing...... a mass delusion of sorts.

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                    • Vinnykin
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
                      Hmmmm seems like you didn't watch that fight. Also....Fury is not known as one of the best inside fighters. Where did you get that from?
                      You haven't followed Fury for over a decade then? like I have?

                      Good. When he butchers Wilder inside and leans and brawls all over his skinny ass...... you will remember what I told you, hopefully.... or go hiding.... either or.

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