Charlo turned down 10-12mil for Canelo. As per PBC and GBP

[Scipio2009]

Lol, this is your source?

[N/A]

claims to be independently wealthy, yet supposedly "works" in a sport that he doesnt like?? On what planet does that make any sense??

I know you can't spell, but apparently you can't read either.

You sell golf carts for a living. Does that mean you have to love playing golf? What if you're passionate about slow moving vehicles? Why would it matter what sport they're used for?

[techliam]

A star of Canelo's caliber isn't just going to get an unexpected letter in the mail making concrete demands. The WBC had been trying to massage the situation for over a year. When they finally put their foot down and told Canelo if you don't fight Charlo next, we have to strip you, he wasn't willing to fight Charlo. So Golden Boy & Sulaiman put their heads together on how to best minimize the damage from that. Hence the franchise idea.

This sounds more like a theory. Do you have any evidence?

Inference alone isn’t evidence

I can infer from the events that actually the WBC didn’t enforce anything, and the WBC attempted to have their cake and eat it by having two champions to appease both sides, as the modern day WBC is simply a tool for promoters

My theory isn’t any more valid or invalid than yours. So really, your justification for claiming Canelo ducked Charlo is only based on how you saw the WBC act.. not based on what they actually did. Big assumptions need to be made to make your argument relevant

[N/A]

This sounds more like a theory. Do you have any evidence?

Not a theory. Yes, I have evidence, but I'm not going to post private emails on a public forum and jeopardize important relationships I've built unless there's something in it for me.

I can infer from the events that actually the WBC didn’t enforce anything, and the WBC attempted to have their cake and eat it by having two champions to appease both sides

But they didn't appease both sides. Charlo was pissed. He wanted to fight Canelo. He waited patiently for his turn and still didn't get the fight.

Meanwhile, if Canelo was willing to fight Charlo as you suggest, how was he being appeased by being stripped of his world championship? Why would the franchise honor need to even be invented if Canelo was willing to fight Charlo? You're not making any sense.

[TJ highway]

Charlo needs to lower his price to at least 5 million.

[UNBANNED]

This sounds more like a theory. Do you have any evidence?

Inference alone isn’t evidence

I can infer from the events that actually the WBC didn’t enforce anything, and the WBC attempted to have their cake and eat it by having two champions to appease both sides, as the modern day WBC is simply a tool for promoters

My theory isn’t any more valid or invalid than yours. So really, your justification for claiming Canelo ducked Charlo is only based on how you saw the WBC act.. not based on what they actually did. Big assumptions need to be made to make your argument relevant

Not a theory. Yes, I have evidence, but I'm not going to post private emails on a public forum and jeopardize important relationships I've built unless there's something in it for me.




But they didn't appease both sides. Charlo was pissed. He wanted to fight Canelo. He waited patiently for his turn and still didn't get the fight.

Meanwhile, if Canelo was willing to fight Charlo as you suggest, how was he being appeased by being stripped of his world championship? Why would the franchise honor need to even be invented if Canelo was willing to fight Charlo? You're not making any sense.

You guys make this more complicated than it has to be. Here's the answer:

Whenever a fighter fights for the WBC belt a small PERCENTAGE of purse goes WBC (or whichever sanctioning body). By having a regular champion and franchise champion...more purse income for WBC.

It's always about the bottom line - money

[aboutfkntime]

Jorge Sebastian Heiland was the #1 rated middleweight in the WBC ratings for two years. Jermall Charlo agreed to fight him in a final eliminator. Charlo won and became the mandatory challenger.

who ?

I am talking about real people, not some made-up cartoon character

come on man, who did Charlo beat to earn that super-fight... ?

forget speedy gonzales... who did he beat ?

which opponent should Canelo have refused to fight in favor of Charlo?

name him

name the breakout fight where Charlo stepped in front of Andrade to earn that Canelo payday... and name the opponent Canelo should have passed over in favor of Charlo?

[techliam]

Not a theory. Yes, I have evidence, but I'm not going to post private emails on a public forum and jeopardize important relationships I've built unless there's something in it for me.




But they didn't appease both sides. Charlo was pissed. He wanted to fight Canelo. He waited patiently for his turn and still didn't get the fight.

Meanwhile, if Canelo was willing to fight Charlo as you suggest, how was he being appeased by being stripped of his world championship? Why would the franchise honor need to even be invented if Canelo was willing to fight Charlo? You're not making any sense.

So if you aren’t willing to post evidence, why bother posting? You’re wasting everyone’s time with unsubstantiated claims
- in a sport where even the smallest ‘journalist’ claims to be a huge insider

I won’t continue to justify my point of view on the arrangements, as it’s pointless and meaningless if I won’t provide any evidence, as with yourself

[techliam]

You guys make this more complicated than it has to be. Here's the answer:

Whenever a fighter fights for the WBC belt a small PERCENTAGE of purse goes WBC (or whichever sanctioning body). By having a regular champion and franchise champion...more purse income for WBC.

It's always about the bottom line - money

Of course

But there’s also the political aspect to it

The WBC would rather be cozy with both PBC and Golden Boy, rather than take sides. They’ve wormed their way out of it, as they usually do

[Thuglife Nelo]

Errrrbody ducking