Comments Thread For: Wilder Promoter: There is a Reason Fury Didn't Want Immediate Rematch

[Eff Pandas]

Now I know you're drunk. Wallin's resume is worse than Wilder's. He has literally fought dishwashers and garbageman from every continent. He's fought like 3 dudes with women's names that may be chicks that Clarissa Shields is looking to fight next.

The one time he fought someone from a legitimate boxing country was when he fought American Nick Kisner before he fought Fury. Kisner couldn't even get into the dishwashers union so Wallin figured he was safe to fight.

Lmfao.

Dishwasher union

[The Big Dunn]

LMAO at how PBC fanboys rate fighters by their country of origin!

Luis Ortiz is 50 years old, no stamina, slow as a tortoise, and he hasn't beaten anybody with a pulse in 5 years. But he's Cuban, so obviously he's got to be better than some guy from Sweden ...

PBC fanboy? rated fighters by their country of origin? You know a poster is desperate when they play dumb and pretend you posted something they know you didn't. It's ok dude. You already outed yourself by suggesting Wallin was better than Ortiz.

Ortiz has at least fought and defeated men with a pulse. Before fury Wallin hadn't even fought someone considered top 75 in the world.

[kafkod]

When Tyson was setting up to fight Hammer Wilder called him and Wlad out. Wlad said Wilder needs more fight and Shelly co-signed that. Peter just said Wilder's too dangerous though.

That **** is probably still on youtube.


There is no way to spin that one. Tyson ducked Wilder because his team thought Wilder was too dangerous, period, straight from Peter's mouth.


You can tell me Shelly, who did work for both men at the time, was protecting Wilder of his two wards by throwing Wilder under the bus and making him look weak while steering Wlad well away from him, but, there is no caveat from team Wilder when dealing with the Fury-Hammer conversation. They wanted the fight, Fury did not, the story ended until Fury beat Wlad.

Wilder called Fury and Wlad out?

Lol ... yeah, it's easy to call guys out when you know there is zero chance of your team doing anything to try and make the fight and they're going to reject any approaches from the other side.

You've tried that other moronic bullshit with me before .. trying to pretend that Wlad didn't want to fight Wilder and Shirley was protecting him from Wilder, not the other way round.

That's utter nonsense, and I'm sure you know it.

Finkel worked with K2 on the US business side of Wlad's fights, but he was Wilder's full time manager, not Wlad's.

He wasn't working for Wlad or looking out for his interests in any way, shape or form by blocking him from achieving his dream of unifying the HW division before he retired.

Is there no limit to the lies you guys will spout, or the depths of crass ******ity you will descend to?

[kafkod]

PBC fanboy? rated fighters by their country of origin? You know a poster is desperate when they play dumb and pretend you posted something they know you didn't. It's ok dude. You already outed yourself by suggesting Wallin was better than Ortiz.

Ortiz has at least fought and defeated men with a pulse. Before fury Wallin hadn't even fought someone considered top 75 in the world.

Yes, he's also gotten old and slow, failed 2 PED tests and developed hypertension.

[Marchegiano]

Fury was Klitschkos mandatory, when he fought Hammer He was scheduled to fight Wlad anyway in November, Wilder was fighting for a vacant belt so why is calling Fury out even realistic when it can’t happen ? The only one spinning is you because you just keep posting making things up . No one even thought much about Wilder in 2015 but Furys ducking him to take on a guy who was undefeated for ten years ? Ha

The same way the Hammer fight did happen you dumb prick.

Wilder had just won his title, Fury was scheduled to fight Hammer while waiting on Wlad against Jennings. Wilder told Fury they could fight instead of Hammer and if he wins he goes into the Wlad match to unify. Fury said no thanks, not worth jeopardizing his shot at Wlad and pressed ahead with the Hammer fight.


The youtube video might be hard to find but there were articles, this took me like two second, you ******, lazy, prick:



Frank Warren has returned from talks with HBO and Showtime executives in New York convinced he is “very, very close” to agreeing a deal for Tyson Fury to challenge either Wladimir Klitschko or Deontay Wilder in the UK this summer for a version of the world heavyweight title.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/feb/21/tyson-fury-wladimiw-klitschko-deontay-wilder-frank-warren-title-fight-uk-summer

What's that say ya dunce ****? Does it say Warren was in negotiations with Wilder? For a belt? Vacant what? You know what you're talking about do you?

Why? It couldn't happen so says the great know Redeemer. Why'd Frank waste his time?

You're a ****ing idiot with a big mouth and no understanding of the **** you speak about. I don't know why you follow me, you look dumb and out of depth every single time.

You've like one correction ever, over some **** neither myself nor the guy I was speaking to actually gave a **** about. I said Breazeale was gone for a while, you said two weeks....I could say you're a dumb**** and that is a while but whatever, your sad ass needs a win so I'll give you that one. Outside of that, the ****? You just like being wrong or some such?

[Marchegiano]

Wilder called Fury and Wlad out?

Lol ... yeah, it's easy to call guys out when you know there is zero chance of your team doing anything to try and make the fight and they're going to reject any approaches from the other side.

You've tried that other moronic bullshit with me before .. trying to pretend that Wlad didn't want to fight Wilder and Shirley was protecting him from Wilder, not the other way round.

That's utter nonsense, and I'm sure you know it.

Finkel worked with K2 on the US business side of Wlad's fights, but he was Wilder's full time manager, not Wlad's.

He wasn't working for Wlad or looking out for his interests in any way, shape or form by blocking him from achieving his dream of unifying the HW division before he retired.

Is there no limit to the lies you guys will spout, or the depths of crass ******ity you will descend to?

Yeah, I realize, last time you told me they weren't working together anymore, I proved they were, you stfu and moved on.

How the **** do you work with someone and not have an interest? I don't mean to be a **** to you bud but that is frustratingly ******. Period.

Did Wilder ever say he isn't ready?

Did Wlad say Wilder isn't ready?

Did Shelly work for both?

Did Shelly make Wilder look good?

Hmmmm


Tell you what, I sell products in Germany and Russia, but, don't go to Germany, that shop isn't ready, go to Russia instead.

I just put over my German shop did I? What if I own the German shop and only have a partnership in Russia?

Hmmmmm

Frustratingly ****ing dumb. Y'all really want something to hang Wilder on but he didn't say anything but I want them. They had excuses not to fight him so those fights never happened.


BTW Shelly's only a co- on team Wilder too.

[Tecnoworld]

Till yesterday I gave an edge to Fury by ud, but it seems to me he's not in perfect shape, given these pics.

[The Big Dunn]

Yes, he's also gotten old and slow, failed 2 PED tests and developed hypertension.

And he is still better than Wallin or anyone Wallin has fought, other than Fury.

My guess is you and Wallin sit next to each other at the union meetings that is why you are talking him up so much. I respect that. I believe in unions and union brotherhood. You guys have probably talked about starting a company together.

Wallin and Kafkod dishwashing and garbage removal LLC.

"We wash the dishes and take out the trash, we take credit, checks or cash!"

[OldTerry]

50/50 fight. The big awkward dude who was dropped by Steve Cunningham and life and death with John McDermott - well, never would have believed that guy would become an elite talent. Let alone win the HW championship. I will never bet against him again. This is an even fight. Wilder cannot lose so many rounds as he did in first. And as he did in Ortiz rematch. Sometimes the big shot never comes. Can go either way. And that’s good for boxing

I understand what you are saying about Wilder losing rounds but we know Wilder will always lose rounds. And guess what it doesn't matter how many rounds he loses as long as he knocks out his opponent. Also, losing rounds doesn't mean Wilder doesn't have boxing skills as part of his skill set is to set his guy up for the knockout. Plus we have never seen Wilder get beat up in a fight, Ortiz did a number on him for one round but not for all rounds.

[kafkod]

Yeah, I realize, last time you told me they weren't working together anymore, I proved they were, you stfu and moved on.

How the **** do you work with someone and not have an interest? I don't mean to be a **** to you bud but that is frustratingly ******. Period.

Did Wilder ever say he isn't ready?

Did Wlad say Wilder isn't ready?

Did Shelly work for both?

Did Shelly make Wilder look good?

Hmmmm


Tell you what, I sell products in Germany and Russia, but, don't go to Germany, that shop isn't ready, go to Russia instead.

I just put over my German shop did I? What if I own the German shop and only have a partnership in Russia?

Hmmmmm

Frustratingly ****ing dumb. Y'all really want something to hang Wilder on but he didn't say anything but I want them. They had excuses not to fight him so those fights never happened.


BTW Shelly's only a co- on team Wilder too.

You proved nothing to me "last time" except that you were either trolling, shilling, or legit deluded by your schoolboy crush on Wilder.

Finkel has never been Wlad Kitschko's manager. He maybe could have called himself a co-manager, at one time - at a stretch - but all he really was is an associate, and nothing more.

Finkel is Wilder's manager. Bernd Boente was Wlad's manager from the begining to the end of his career.

Eddie Hearn works with Canelo at DAZN. But whose interests do you think Eddie will be looking after if Canelo fights Liam Smith ... Canelo's or Liam's?