Comments Thread For: Wilder Promoter: There is a Reason Fury Didn't Want Immediate Rematch

[kafkod]

LMFAO! you can't be serious. Kafkod WTF is up with you lately? Wallin is a bum. Pulev is a slug. Stop trying to elevate these garbageman/gate keepers just because they fought/plan to fight British HWT's.

You got all high and mighty yesterday about being a Boxing fan rather than an "Al Haymon" fan so stay true to that uppity holier than thou BS by holding the Brit HWT's to the same standard you do PBC fighters.

Fury took 2 good paydays because the opportunity presented itself. Any boxing fan gets that.

Apart from Fury, Wilder's best win is the 50 year old fake bogeyman Ortiz. I would put money on Wallin beating that ancient hype job.

[Articulateboxin]

Cash and very little else. He got paid $80 million or something to take the longer road round...it's a no brainer Plus he has longer to return to fighting shape.

However I do wonder if there is such a thing as too long, particularly for a fighter like Fury who's mental wellbeing follows a similar pattern to that of a roller-coaster. Perhaps he would have had more chance in an immediate rematch, his trainer would still be the same and Wilder would arguably be a less complete fighter than he is today.

[REDEEMER]

It’s increasingly obvious that the people around Wilder aren’t to smart which explains a lot . The only real one who is a true manipulative guy with insight is Finkel who knows how to worm around just about anything .

[The Big Dunn]

Apart from Fury, Wilder's best win is the 50 year old fake bogeyman Ortiz. I would put money on Wallin beating that ancient hype job.

Now I know you're drunk. Wallin's resume is worse than Wilder's. He has literally fought dishwashers and garbageman from every continent. He's fought like 3 dudes with women's names that may be chicks that Clarissa Shields is looking to fight next.

The one time he fought someone from a legitimate boxing country was when he fought American Nick Kisner before he fought Fury. Kisner couldn't even get into the dishwashers union so Wallin figured he was safe to fight.

[Tyistall]

Yes, and theres a reason why Wilder never fought Klitschko, Povetkin, AJ, Whtye, Haye and a long list of good fighters either. He's a fraud

[factsarenice]

Everyone knows Fury picked up $80 million to stall.

Good GOD...after turning down AJ's $120 and Ortiz ditching 6 million to make 1.5 and Garcia snubbing 6 to make 1 million you would think they'd check the water for lead.

Maybe they're getting paid in Floyd's ******* and told that in the future it will be worth more.

[Marchegiano]

Wilder has been hiding under Haymon's skirts since he won his paper title.

He didn't have the balls to fight Wlad, like Fury did, or fight anybody away from home, like Fury is doing now.

When Tyson was setting up to fight Hammer Wilder called him and Wlad out. Wlad said Wilder needs more fight and Shelly co-signed that. Peter just said Wilder's too dangerous though.

That **** is probably still on youtube.


There is no way to spin that one. Tyson ducked Wilder because his team thought Wilder was too dangerous, period, straight from Peter's mouth.


You can tell me Shelly, who did work for both men at the time, was protecting Wilder of his two wards by throwing Wilder under the bus and making him look weak while steering Wlad well away from him, but, there is no caveat from team Wilder when dealing with the Fury-Hammer conversation. They wanted the fight, Fury did not, the story ended until Fury beat Wlad.

[REDEEMER]

When Tyson was setting up to fight Hammer Wilder called him and Wlad out. Wlad said Wilder needs more fight and Shelly co-signed that. Peter just said Wilder's too dangerous though.

That **** is probably still on youtube.


There is no way to spin that one. Tyson ducked Wilder because his team thought Wilder was too dangerous, period, straight from Peter's mouth.


You can tell me Shelly, who did work for both men at the time, was protecting Wilder of his two wards by throwing Wilder under the bus and making him look weak while steering Wlad well away from him, but, there is no caveat from team Wilder when dealing with the Fury-Hammer conversation. They wanted the fight, Fury did not, the story ended until Fury beat Wlad.

Fury was Klitschkos mandatory, when he fought Hammer He was scheduled to fight Wlad anyway in November, Wilder was fighting for a vacant belt so why is calling Fury out even realistic when it can’t happen ? The only one spinning is you because you just keep posting making things up . No one even thought much about Wilder in 2015 but Furys ducking him to take on a guy who was undefeated for ten years ? Ha

[kafkod]

Now I know you're drunk. Wallin's resume is worse than Wilder's. He has literally fought dishwashers and garbageman from every continent. He's fought like 3 dudes with women's names that may be chicks that Clarissa Shields is looking to fight next.

The one time he fought someone from a legitimate boxing country was when he fought American Nick Kisner before he fought Fury. Kisner couldn't even get into the dishwashers union so Wallin figured he was safe to fight.

LMAO at how PBC fanboys rate fighters by their country of origin!

Luis Ortiz is 50 years old, no stamina, slow as a tortoise, and he hasn't beaten anybody with a pulse in 5 years. But he's Cuban, so obviously he's got to be better than some guy from Sweden ...

[Eff Pandas]

April 21, 2019:

Arum alleged that Haymon will discourage Spence from a business deal with an outside, white promoter.

“[Haymon’s] going to say, ‘Spence, listen to me. Don’t listen to the white guys. Because if you listen to the white guys, they’re going to steer you down the road … listen to me, brother, we’re part of a brotherhood. And if I’m telling you not to fight Crawford, I’m telling you not to fight Crawford,’” Arum said.

That point dissolves when it’s considered Arum has stopped fights by considering long-term boxing business, too. Earlier this year, when it appeared Haymon’s heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder had a deal in place for a rematch with England’s Tyson Fury following their epic Dec. 1 draw at Staples Center, Arum struck a co-promotion deal with Fury and now says the Brit will likely take two more fights to further build his brand in the U.S. before reuniting with Wilder."

https://www.latimes.com/sports/boxing/la-sp-bob-arum-terence-crawford-al-haymon-20190421-story.html

Arum doing what Arum does!

The odd thing is I feel like Wilder built his name more than Fury in this hiatus period.

Granted Fury is bigger in the US than he was, but that was obviously going to happen regardless after the Wilder fight. The actual fights he had have done lil for him I feel like & much of his viral moments if you can even suggest he had any since Wilder involves his ring walks/outfits.