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  • SUBZER0ED
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    #211
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    Wow. Are you for real?

    Are you seriously trying to argue that the year 2009 was in the last decade?

    Again, I'll write it down for you again. Infact, I'll even use the dates to make it even easier;


    Jan 1st - 31st December 2010 - YEAR ONE

    Jan 1st - 31st December 2011 - YEAR TWO

    Jan 1st - 31st December 2012 - YEAR THREE

    Jan 1st - 31st December 2013 - YEAR FOUR

    Jan 1st - 31st December 2014 - YEAR FIVE

    Jan 1st - 31st December 2015 - YEAR SIX

    Jan 1st - 31st December 2016 - YEAR SEVEN

    Jan 1st - 31st December 2017 - YEAR EIGHT

    Jan 1st - 31st December 2018 - YEAR NINE

    Jan 1st - 31st December 2019 - YEAR TEN


    Do you understand? Has it sunk in? Or are literally brain dead? Count the fucking years above you idiot.

    Is 2009 there? No. Because the year 2009 was NOT in the last decade.

    Jesus fucking christ.
    Your head is starting to hurt about now, isn't it? Go have a yoo-hoo and relax.

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    • IronDanHamza
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      #212
      Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
      Your head is starting to hurt about now, isn't it? Go have a yoo-hoo and relax.
      Yes, my head is in excruciating pain from this.

      Are you aware that 2009 was not part of the last decade or do you genuinely think that it is?

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      • b00g13man
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        #213
        Wow! Just wow!

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        • PunchyPotorff
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          #214
          Originally posted by UNBANNED
          Again this is why I used objective sources. All 3 judges in Aussie had Joe Horn winning.

          A follow-up independent review also had Horn winning.

          Very few people outside of this forum think Pac won that fight...because he lost.




          How did Floyd make either of them wait?

          Mosley has the infamous post-fight interview where he says he has to "go to the dentist" and that's why he cant fight Floyd

          Manny refused drug tests, was afraid of needles, needed cutoff dates, needed an outdoor stadium built, needed 50/50 split...Its insane that people hold Floyd accountable for that fight not happening sooner. Manny was more of a holdup than Floyd ever was



          I disagree but it was a good fight



          He juiced? This is getting pathetic...



          ...why did I even bother responding to you
          You can cheer for whichever fighters you wanna cheer for bubba. I don't care. I just voice my opinion that Pac deserves Fighter Of The Decade, not Floydie. Pac lost because he was in Australia, fixed fight. Same as 2nd Bradley fight, fixed. Ask Arum about both fights, but he'll deny it. And I don't know where you dug up 'most people thought Pac lost'. That's simply ridiculous. As for Floydie juicing, I'll eventually look up and file articles that leave little doubt. The incident was right before the Berto fight. They found equipment in his mansion consistent with what fighters use to juice with, then flush their system. It's reality. The anti-doping body found it there. And make up all the excuses you want, Floydie did indeed duck Mosley and Pac in their primes. Your excuses are so daft it's embarrassing. You just need to move on and stop wasting people's time with your whining. Floydie may be your god, but the ducker and loud mouth sure as he!! isn't EVERYONE's god. Take a hike, pal.

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          • PunchyPotorff
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            #215
            Originally posted by JLC
            Lol. Floyd hater spotted.

            What the hell did Antonio Margarito do this decade to deserve a fight ???? He got caught cheating and got knocked out by Mosley, and both of these things took place LAST decade. 2009 or something. So how is he relevant ?

            How does a decade include a person fighting and beating Mosely, Cotto, Canelo AND Pacquiao but you say he’s been a ducker ? That pretty unbelievable.


            Floyd’s best wins were Pac and Canelo. Who were pac best wins ???? Keith Thurman ??? Tim Bradley ???? Do either of those names compare even to Cotto at the time Floyd fought him ? Let alone Pacquiao or Alvarez.

            Pac is in last place in this race. Canelo has had a better decade than him. Ward has had a better last 10 years than Manny

            Fighter of the decade is just what it sounds like. Who was the best the past decade. 10 years. 2010-2019. Not who you think Floyd should have fought in 1998 or 2003 or at the Olympic trials.
            Floydie NEVER fought Margarito, who was an elite for several years. As for beating Pac, Mosley, Cotto, Canelo... all 4 were either past their prime or were too green and made a bad choice (Canelo) fighting Floydie too soon. Today's Canelo would easily UD or KO Floydie. Not even close. But hey, keep spewing your nonsense there, pal. I really don't care. You Floydie worshipers are all alike. I actually NEVER see more whining replies to posts than Floydieists whining if anyone says anything critical of their lord-and-master flydie. Pac deserves it, floydie doesn't. We're done here.

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            • JLC
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              #216
              Originally posted by PunchyPotorff
              Floydie NEVER fought Margarito, who was an elite for several years. As for beating Pac, Mosley, Cotto, Canelo... all 4 were either past their prime or were too green and made a bad choice (Canelo) fighting Floydie too soon. Today's Canelo would easily UD or KO Floydie. Not even close. But hey, keep spewing your nonsense there, pal. I really don't care. You Floydie worshipers are all alike. I actually NEVER see more whining replies to posts than Floydieists whining if anyone says anything critical of their lord-and-master flydie. Pac deserves it, floydie doesn't. We're done here.

              The award is for fighter of the decade. Not greatest of all time.

              Why people keep bringing up Antonio Margarito like he was in any way relevant this decade is beyond me. Just a tactic to discredit.

              Who did Pacquiao beat in their prime this decade ? Who were the best fighters Pac beat this decade ?

              Were they better than the fighters Floyd beat ? If Pac was so far past his prime then why in the hell are we considering him for fighter of the decade of he’s so washed up ?? People act like Mayweather was in his prime this decade. People act like Mayweather was the one ducking Shane Mosley when it was the other way around.

              Floyd beat better fighters than both Pac and Canelo this decade. That part is undeniable. He fought and beat two candidates for fighter of the decade this decade. Pacquiao beat zero candidates. Canelo beat zero candidates.

              Pacquaio beat Tim after he had been concussed by Vargas and provodnikov. Beat Broner after he was washed up. Beat Thurman after several surgeries and after he was almost stopped by both Collazo and Lopez. See how easy it is to discredit a fighters wins ? Holes can always be poked in victories.

              I believe in giving Pac, Canelo, and Mayweather credit for their wins without searching for reasons for them not to count. If you apply the same criticism across all three fighters resumes then you are being unbiased. But I haven’t ONCE heard anyone approach judging resumes fairly. It is always Pacquiao deserves full credit for every fight he’s been in this decade, and all his losses should be ignored or excuses away, while Floyd’s wins are searched with a fine toothed comb. Like Pacquaio didn’t win FOTD last year where two of his biggest fights were blatant catch weights. One of them draining a guy down a whole damn division. The other fighting a guy without a trainer. What’s good enough for one is good enough for all IMO

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              • JLC
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                #217
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                Yes, my head is in excruciating pain from this.

                Are you aware that 2009 was not part of the last decade or do you genuinely think that it is?
                It’s crazy how this dude replied to you but couldn’t muster up and admit he doesn’t know how to tell which years are in a decade. Lol. Forums are a horrible place.

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                • JLC
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                  #218
                  Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
                  You wore the special padded helmet as a child, didn't you? It's ok, I won't hold it against you. The span of time from the year 2009 through the year 2019 is considered a decade. I'll make it simpler for you to understand, although we're getting into some really big numbers for you: The much celebrated bicentennial (that's 200 years, special ed) was 1776-1976, NOT 1777-1976. I can't believe I'm arguing with you about the definition of a decade.
                  My friend, you’re wrong.

                  The last time they did a fighter of the decade award it was in Jan 2010. And they considered all fights from Jan 2000 through December 2009.

                  So for example, if they are giving out the award now, in Jan 2020 and clearly no fights in 2020 are going to be considered for this award because they have not happened yet, the easiest thing for you to do is to count backwards from the first completed eligible year, which is 2019. So let’s count backwards together.

                  2019
                  2018
                  2017
                  2016
                  2015
                  2014
                  2013
                  2012
                  2011
                  2010

                  There you have it. Ten years.

                  Also, they don’t generally hand decade awards out in, say, 2017. They wait for an actual DECADE to finish first. IE the 201X decade, vs just picking a random year and counting back 10 years. So it’s a grouped decade, like the 2010s that they are giving the awards to.

                  Here’s one more way to look at it. Is someone who is 19 years old in their twenties ? No. They are not. A person is in their twenties for 10 years. Let’s count them together.

                  20
                  21
                  22
                  23
                  24
                  25
                  26
                  27
                  28
                  29

                  That’s ten years.

                  Lastly, they have this cool website called Wikipedia. If you search the term 2010s it will show you exactly when that decade started and ended, and they’ve already got the ability to search for 2020s For further reading ! I’ll add a link but not sure if the forums will remove it or not.



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                  • SergioMartinez
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                    #219
                    I haven't posted here in about a year. But for the people talking about Margarito was a good win for Pacquiao you gotta be kidding me.

                    Without Plaster Margarito was....Brandon Rios basically. And before you say he beat Martinez he was probably using Plaster in that fight too.

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                    • SplitSecond
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                      #220
                      Originally posted by SergioMartinez
                      I haven't posted here in about a year. But for the people talking about Margarito was a good win for Pacquiao you gotta be kidding me.

                      Without Plaster Margarito was....Brandon Rios basically. And before you say he beat Martinez he was probably using Plaster in that fight too.
                      Most of you don’t pay attention. His power wasn’t much different at all. Can you only discern power from whether or not fighters are being stopped? Marg was always a heavy handed accumulation puncher without the snap and speed to get many sudden KO’s. In his fights back he was still heavy handed and very strong.

                      If you were to say Margarito was passed it I’d have more respect for that, because he really was even slower, stiffer and his defense became near non-existent (yes, he actually had some defense before). He was worse, plain and simple. It was still a good win for Pacquiao just due to the sheer size, strength/heavy hands of Margarito. That Margarito still beats the sht out of a lot of guys on Mayweather’s resume in that decade like Ortiz, Berto for example, and I’d pick him to whether Maidana before making it a very close contest late, with odds of stopping him.
                      Last edited by SplitSecond; 01-11-2020, 10:47 AM.

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