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    #31
    Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats
    Doesn’t matter what pac is continuing to do, him and canelo both lost to Mayweather in the decade along with pac losing to Bradley, Marquez by brutal ko and horn.... even if you think he won the Bradley and horn fight it’s losses on his record
    Losses - but more importantly, Floyd handily beat BOTH Carnelo and Manny. How do you rate Manny over a guy that beat him??

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    • IceTrayDaGang
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      #32
      Originally posted by revelated
      Losses - but more importantly, Floyd handily beat BOTH Carnelo and Manny. How do you rate Manny over a guy that beat him??
      it's not rating!!! it's the amount of work you put in. do the math. manny out did floyd. fighter of the decade is who accomplished the most during that decade.

      when a basketball player is awarded MVP... it doesnt mean he's the best player ever! it just means that during that season, he put in the most work and the numbers show.

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      • The tucker
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        #33
        He lost to Marquez, Jeff horn, Tim Bradley( was robbed) and mayweather who beat both the potential fighters of the decade canelo and pac.

        Pac was fighting people like Brandon Rios,Chris algirie, a even more faded version of mosley and the cherry pick gone wrong Jeff horn. His best win of the decade was Keith thurman which he badly needed to be even considered for fighter of the decade.

        No way he deserves FOTD.

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        • IceTrayDaGang
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          #34
          Originally posted by The tucker
          He lost to Marquez, Jeff horn, Tim Bradley( was robbed) and mayweather who beat both the potential fighters of the decade canelo and pac.

          Pac was fighting people like Brandon Rios,Chris algirie, a even more faded version of mosley and the cherry pick gone wrong Jeff horn. His best win of the decade was Keith thurman which he badly needed to be even considered for fighter of the decade.

          No way he deserves FOTD.
          and floyd was fighting people like berto, guerrero, and even a more faded cotto.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Noelanthony
            I’m a floyd fan and Floyd washes Pacquiao at any stage of his career and proved it in 2015 even without his trusted legs. Even though Pacquio was knocked out sensationally ( sorry Pac fans he was) you cant begrudge him this award he deserves it and even now he is still proving himself to be the man
            Pac has 71 fights... And a 8 division world champion.. just dethroned some younger Champions.. Recently.. An is current WBA champ as we speak... Floyd has 50 fights, An retired 4 times. Yea.. Its obvious that pac is the man! Floyd got no one to blame but himself.. He didn't realize that winning the fights is only a single battle. but the collection of efforts is what determines the outcome of the war! Seriously Floyds last opponent was 0-0 when they fought two years ago! July 20th 2019 Pac dethroned a 29-0 wba champ Keith Thurman!

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              #36
              Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang
              using your logic, canelo highly suspect loss to ggg and most thought he also loss to lara. and lets not forget the POSITIVE failed drug testing. just saying, using your logic.
              Canelo did not have a highly suspect LOSS. He had a suspect DRAW. I thought he had a draw with Lara too, but at least he did face Lara in the ring! He also did NOT get KO'd by anyone. I don't even remember Canelo ever being dropped. As far as drug testing goes, check this out:

              NFL warns players that Mexican ‘contaminated meat’ could cause PED violations



              And this:

              July 11, 2019:

              The WBC is happy to acknowledge the new standard set by WADA with a higher threshold with regards to Clenbuterol.
              This is a confirmation of the innocence of fighters like Saul Canelo Alvarez and Francisco Vargas who once were in the middle of controversy. Clean Boxing Program tests performed by VADA found Clenbuterol in their examination.

              The WBC has received an additional report from VADA. Two further Mexican fighters showed atypical findings of Clenbuterol. They are well below the new WADA standard.

              All fighters will receive proper nutrition education from the WBC Clean Boxing Program. Plus a Weight Management Program.

              WBC champion Rey Vargas and WBC challenger Julio Cesar Martinez are at no fault with regards to their VADA atypical finding.

              Effective on June 1, 2019, the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) established a new threshold. This is in relation to the detection of Clenbuterol. WADA’s new standard intends to ensure that results management en****** address and resolve positive anti-doping tests emanating from the consumption of contaminated meat products in a fair manner for the athlete.

              That will prevent athletes from being penalized for an anti-doping rule violation as a result of consuming contaminated meat.

              WADA’s List of Prohibited List includes Clenbuterol because it promotes muscle growth through anabolic properties. However, scientific studies have shown to WADA’s satisfaction that athletes can test positive for low levels of Clenbuterol after consuming contaminated meat. That finding has led to WADA reviewing their recommended results. Also, management rules governing adverse findings for Clenbuterol.

              The WBC has been at the forefront of handling Clenbuterol cases consistently with the new WADA standard. In the Clenbuterol positive cases detected since the WBC implemented the WBC Clean Boxing Program, the athletes have been allowed to provide documentation. Evidence that shows whether the athlete unknowingly consumed meat contaminated with Clenbuterol in or from these high-risk countries.

              The levels of Clenbuterol and related substances found in WBC CBP cases to date (e.g., Canelo Alvarez, Francisco Vargas and Luis Nery) have been significantly lower than the new WADA standard. Even before the new WADA standard, the WBC has consistently treated those cases accordingly. Thus, after an extensive investigation, the WBC did not penalize the affected athletes.

              https://www.***************.net/2019...erol-wbc-wada/
              Last edited by Bronx2245; 01-09-2020, 09:05 AM.

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                #37
                ... shame on you

                Shame on you, mentioning Bradley beating Pac. We all know Pac won that fight 9-3, or 10-2.

                .... it wasn't even close.

                That was Bob Arum cooking the books because Pac was a free agent after that fight, and he refused a contract extension before the fight happened.

                Pac beat horn too. Stop bullshitn. The ref was concerned for horns health and knew horn was basically "OUT on his feet".

                Once again, shame on you.



                Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats
                Doesn’t matter what pac is continuing to do, him and canelo both lost to Mayweather in the decade along with pac losing to Bradley, Marquez by brutal ko and horn.... even if you think he won the Bradley and horn fight it’s losses on his record
                Last edited by TheBoxingBanger; 01-09-2020, 09:06 AM.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Dle
                  PAC fought weightdrained opposes and washed up beaten opponents with a name. Very few if any undefeated champions other than injured out of the ringKeith Thurman. Andre Ward & Mayweather beat undefeated tough opposition while in their prime
                  I know right like canelo at 22 at a CW, Pacquiao after he got kod by marquez and 2 boxers with 0-0-0 record .Floyd always fights the best right hood boy???

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats
                    Doesn’t matter what pac is continuing to do, him and canelo both lost to Mayweather in the decade along with pac losing to Bradley, Marquez by brutal ko and horn.... even if you think he won the Bradley and horn fight it’s losses on his record
                    But Floyd fought half the decade...he could've rematched Pacquiao, canelo or fought any young top elites and may have lost but we don't know BECAUSE HE ONLY FOUGHT HALF OF THE DECADE ....u hood boyz with ur section 8 logic

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang
                      fighter of the decade is not determine by losses. it's what you put in during that decade. i dont know why mofos tryna change the meaning of it. it doesnt mean that fighter is the best ever. it just mean that during that decade, he was the one that did the most. mofos be hella reaching on here.
                      I think fighting Trout, Angulo, Lara, Kirkland, Mayweather, Cotto, GGG x 2, Jacobs, and Kovalev, and only losing to Mayweather, is more impressive than what Manny did since 2010. This is coming from a Mayweather fan too!

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