Why are PBC-LDBC fans still excusing Haymon fighters NOT TO CROSS? #Charlo #Wilder

[The Big Dunn]

Korobov got injured against Eubank, dude cannot catch a break. I don't see why Jermall would face Koro over Eubank. Derevy is the best in-house option, so that won't be explored

Andrade is a more challenging style match-up. We've seen this story before: Andrade won't get Canelo/GGG until they have exhausted other options. Canelo has more options because he's going to jump from 160-168 as it suits him. After the IBF mandatory, I see DAZN trying to make GGG/Murata in Japan. I wonder if Arum will try to veto that match-up, even-though it benefits Murata to strike while GGG is looking vulnerable. It appears like Arum doesn't have control over Murata's matchmaking in Japan, so that shouldn't be a big hurdle. If no GGG/Murata, it should be Andrade/Charlo.

I know Hearn's back-up plan will be to feed the Liams to Andrade, but that will not make for a great 2020.

Ok. Thank you. Finally someone else willing to give a straight answer.

DAZN isn’t trying to risk their top guys losing to Andrade . Haymon isn’t either.

It is disingenuous to be upset with one and not the other.

[The Big Dunn]

I dont know why. However I do know Charlo called Andrade out. Told him to get on the phone to Eddie. So that's happened and now charlo and you pbc crew are now backtracking and don't seem to want the fight

Does charlo not want that belt? Is he happy with 1 like wilder? Why say all that about phones and hearn and DAZN only to then go back on it all? Why say any of it at all?

I don’t recall seeing the get on the phone thing. That said if he did say it, why can’t he turn down an offer if it isn’t to his liking? Offers are turned down all the time, right?

Charlo, like wilder, is being passed over for the big fight. So it appears the plan is fight bums until the a side chooses him. This is the exact plan Hearn is using, feeding ggg bums until they make the 3rd canelo fight.

Instead of wasting time by leaking media reports about an offer to charlo, make the in house unification fight.

if you were charlo, you wouldn’t go to DAZN to fight a DAZN fighter where Hearn controls the judges, venue and everything, especially after getting passed over for a bigger fight you earned by becoming the mando.

[kafkod]

Why can’t Andrade get fights with the DAZN top MWs?

GGG and Canelo are guaranteed big money from DAZN whoever they fight, which means they lack incentive to fight an awkward, shifty guy like Andrade who could make them look bad and possibly beat them. It's also possible that DAZN don't want either of them to fight him before they fight each other again.

None of that is a relevant to Charlo, and I doubt he would get any more money for fighting either GGG or Canelo than he has been offered for Andrade.

[ShaneMosleySr]

The only DAZN middleweight is GGG.

He wants Canelo again and isn’t going to fight someone like Andrade until he gets his Canelo fight.

I notice the DAZN interns haven’t been able to answer why Andrade can’t get a fight with the top DAZN MWs even though he is signed to DAZN

[Ray*]

You posted you are ok with canelo not fighting boo boo because he fought Lara and trout.

I find it hard to understand how fighting jmw’s over 5 years ago allows you not to fight a mw now.

I also think it’s hard to excuse ggg. Instead of DAZN making a ggg/ Andrade unification they are both fighting huge underdogs in meaningless fights.

you are giving canelo and ggg a pass for not fighting Andrade. Others are giving charlo a pass for not fighting him.

How are you and they any different?

Like I said that’s your interpretation. All these you are posting to me is deflecting from the thread.

Let’s stick to Andrade and Charlo unifying. Let’s talk about that without bringing others into it.

[just the facts]

that’s a flawed theory and cliche one at best. Not all Southpaws are difficult, depends on the fighter who can nullify. Canelo Alvarez is in his prime. Classics fans act like casuals when they reference fights 7 years prior as if a fighter hasn’t evolved. The Canelo Haters say he had problems with Southpaws in Trout. Regardless if Canelo decisively beating Trout, then why would he fight Lara it industry knew he would be even more difficult than Trout? Derp derp

Jacobs couldn’t do anything even switching at Southpaw against Canelo let alone GGg.

Then you’ve got the holy grail of “stylistic Southpaw nightmare” in BJS where everyone said would be a problem for Canelo, particularly after seeing the Lemeiux fight. As if Canelo fights anything like Lemeiux.

I mean. These things are cakewalk to address

So chastise Charlo for not crossing the street and fighting Andrade but give Canelo and ggg a pass even though they don’t have to cross the street?

Btw your sexual fantasy (Canelo) did not decisively beat Trout. Decisively is what Floyd did to Canelo.

[Scipio2009]

So you PBC boys are now claiming its not a real offer? Lol.

Charlo hasn't seen the offer, Ronnie Shields hasn't seen the offer, and Haymon doesn't talk to anyone he's not working on behalf of or doing business with.

The only proof of said offer was Hearn mentioning it, talking in platitudes about how great the offer was, and how it was similar to Mikey Garcia's deal (and at least Mikey's offer has an actual believed number attached to it).

Believe Hearn if you want.

[uppercut510]

just keep smashin that LIKE BUTTON!!!

[Scipio2009]

... are we to understand that Jarmall is fighting Derevyanchenko next?... (same roster...)

Eubank Jr is seemingly set to be next. Still, let's not act like Derevyanchenko (assuming he gets a fight in first) isn't on the short list for Charlo's next fight, assuming Canelo doesn't call.

[Curt Henning]

I don’t recall seeing the get on the phone thing. That said if he did say it, why can’t he turn down an offer if it isn’t to his liking? Offers are turned down all the time, right?

Charlo, like wilder, is being passed over for the big fight. So it appears the plan is fight bums until the a side chooses him. This is the exact plan Hearn is using, feeding ggg bums until they make the 3rd canelo fight.

Instead of wasting time by leaking media reports about an offer to charlo, make the in house unification fight.

if you were charlo, you wouldn’t go to DAZN to fight a DAZN fighter where Hearn controls the judges, venue and everything, especially after getting passed over for a bigger fight you earned by becoming the mando.

not only is the plan that hearn is using now with golovkin...its the same one hbo used with him years ago...