Why are PBC-LDBC fans still excusing Haymon fighters NOT TO CROSS? #Charlo #Wilder

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  • Thuglife Nelo
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    #51
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    Long winded yet still hasn’t answered why DAZN will not match Andrade with ggg or canelo.

    If canelo and ggg are allowed to avoid Andrade then charlo is allowed to as well.

    What you and others want to do is only criticize charlo for doing it.

    In response to that, I am criticizing canelo and ggg as well.
    You’re all over the place and inconsistent. That’s why posters call you out.

    You KNOW DAZN didn’t approve any other fighters other than GGG and Kovalev for Nov. 2019. This mishap was so bad it bumped Canelo off his Sept. date. Devry (Haymon Team) didn’t settle for what Canelo offered but nicely settled for a couple hundred thousand shy with GGG.

    So what is your point about DAZN? I’ve always been Canelo crew full stop. You ask why doesn’t DAZN make Andrade vs ...

    You were just given facts for Canelo.

    Why don’t you, as in one style of mathematics, “simplify,” to specifics instead of generalizing? How do you just consolidate GGG and Canelo as the same circumstances for your agenda to bust on DAZN for Andrade? Is Andrade GBp or Matchroom USA. If you say Hearn has conflicts of interest with DAZN then why don’t you ask why Andrade isn’t getting GGG when in the first paragraphs you already got your answers for Canelo?

    The answer is because you don’t support Canelo! That’s why you always bring up PEDs. Just a reminder most people think the LDBC is garbage. Sorry you have to cope with that.

    Carry on

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    • Ray*
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      #52
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      That is the problem. Charlo/ Andrade is only an issue because canelo avoided charlo and DAZN will not match him with canelo or ggg to protect them from losing or looking bad.
      Like I said am here to talk about Charlo/Andrade. Let’s make it happen, enough of the deflection. They both have offers on the table. Let’s make the unification.

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      • Cobra Curry
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        #53
        Originally posted by Wolfie*
        Both Charlo and Andrade need each other because no one really cares about Charlo vs Eubank or Andrade vs TBA.
        This is the crux of the matter for me.

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          #54
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          Charlo and Andrade don’t need each other.

          Charlo needed the wbc not to pull a bush league move and Andrade needs DAZN to get him a fight with the other guys signed to DAZN.
          I agree 100% that Charlo should have got his shot at Canelo. The trouble is he and a good portion of his fans seemed all too happy to wait for Canelo to be stripped rather than actually pressing the issue with the WBC.

          As things stand, Canelo fights who he wants and Golovkin's situation at DAZN gives him significant leverage so I can't see Andrade or Charlo getting the call without fighting each other.

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          • The Big Dunn
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            #55
            Originally posted by Cobra Curry
            I agree 100% that Charlo should have got his shot at Canelo. The trouble is he and a good portion of his fans seemed all too happy to wait for Canelo to be stripped rather than actually pressing the issue with the WBC.

            As things stand, Canelo fights who he wants and Golovkin's situation at DAZN gives him significant leverage so I can't see Andrade or Charlo getting the call without fighting each other.
            I agree. My issue is there are people that are ok with GGG doing the same thing. Yet we don't have multiple threads and 1500 posts about it.

            Andrade is a tough fight for any of the top MW's. IMO, if it is ok for 2 to avoid him, it can't be bad for the sport if a 3rd guy does the same.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Young Bidness
              You’re all over the place and inconsistent. That’s why posters call you out.

              You KNOW DAZN didn’t approve any other fighters other than GGG and Kovalev for Nov. 2019. This mishap was so bad it bumped Canelo off his Sept. date. Devry (Haymon Team) didn’t settle for what Canelo offered but nicely settled for a couple hundred thousand shy with GGG.

              So what is your point about DAZN? I’ve always been Canelo crew full stop. You ask why doesn’t DAZN make Andrade vs ...

              You were just given facts for Canelo.

              Why don’t you, as in one style of mathematics, “simplify,” to specifics instead of generalizing? How do you just consolidate GGG and Canelo as the same circumstances for your agenda to bust on DAZN for Andrade? Is Andrade GBp or Matchroom USA. If you say Hearn has conflicts of interest with DAZN then why don’t you ask why Andrade isn’t getting GGG when in the first paragraphs you already got your answers for Canelo?

              The answer is because you don’t support Canelo! That’s why you always bring up PEDs. Just a reminder most people think the LDBC is garbage. Sorry you have to cope with that.

              Carry on
              I have repeatedly asked why he can't get a fight with GGG as well as Canelo.

              I am hardly anti Canelo. Pointing out that he tested positive for ped's is a fact. criticizing him for the emeritus decision is because I thought that was a cheap move. I called out Loma same as I did Canelo.

              Hearn is protecting DAZN's protecting their investments in GGG and Canelo by not forcing either to fight Andrade. Haymon is protecting his interest in Charlo and PBC by not accepting the dazn offer. All 3 are doing it because Andrade is a tough fight for all of them.

              I find it BS that some of you only call out Haymon for doing the same thing Hearn is doing.

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                #57
                Originally posted by uppercut510
                this is a good question and they are most def hearn employees
                LOL uppercut climbing up the pant legs of fellow PBC crew. Sucky sucky.

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                • Thuglife Nelo
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  I have repeatedly asked why he can't get a fight with GGG as well as Canelo.

                  I am hardly anti Canelo. Pointing out that he tested positive for ped's is a fact. criticizing him for the emeritus decision is because I thought that was a cheap move. I called out Loma same as I did Canelo.

                  Hearn is protecting DAZN's protecting their investments in GGG and Canelo by not forcing either to fight Andrade. Haymon is protecting his interest in Charlo and PBC by not accepting the dazn offer. All 3 are doing it because Andrade is a tough fight for all of them.

                  I find it BS that some of you only call out Haymon for doing the same thing Hearn is doing.
                  Stop bringing up Canelo you dummy. You keep saying he avoided Jermall Charlo. Your agenda is apparent. If you funna be gangsta be gangsta all the way. Don’t sugar coat and bring in other fighters to deflect when other posters call you out that you don’t want Andrade be Charlo because you’re worried Jermall could lose. That’s the real reason you bring in other irrelevant situations that have nothing to do with them. Cowards do that, just saying

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Young Bidness
                    The biggest story to date is industry waiting on further developments if Charlo is game to receive a HUGE Purse - money... cause we all know he wouldn’t mind buying the biggest leather purse - but still, why do PBC loyalists excuse Charlo when there are videos of him on YouTube saying “if the money is right, shet... I don’t care I’ll go to the UK... tell Hearn to holla at me... we’ll fight anywhere..” etc.

                    Realize Charlos are different than Spence. Spence said he fight on Fox. The Charlos publicly said it doesn’t matter. How is this contradiction excusable by the fans whom back both?

                    Isn’t this getting ridiculous?

                    People are starting to realize that these fighters are truly brainwashed, gullible to how Haymon feeds them investment strategies which then locks out any ******* thinking if they can make better choices.

                    History has shown that cult leaders have and can easily brainwash their followers.
                    No different than the people who worship Eddie Hearns

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                    • DaNeutral.
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                      #60
                      All this talk excusing charlo ducking Andrade yet Charlo was the one talking about how Andrade should get on the phone to Eddie and make an offer. They do exactly that and here we are. Obviously the Big Dunn conviently doesn't remember that but everybody else does.

                      Why say all that and then just not respond when it happens? Why make excuses to NOT have a unification.

                      TO NOT HAVE A UNIFICATION. what the hell going on at the PBC?

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